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submitted 4 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 178 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude isn't even tagged and he can still pop up trying to be relevant lol.

[–] [email protected] 154 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

how much are you willing to bet that he searches for tweets containing "Elon" multiple times per day?

[–] [email protected] 119 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I am willing to bet he has an automated scanner running searching for tweets containing "Elon", probably even aggregating them by how many followers a tweeter has

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

set up by someone else

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

He's owns it, all of it now

[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yann LeCunn is, in a very real sense, a prime example of everything that is wrong with AI research.

And still he has a thousand times the integrity of the rat.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Could you please elaborate on that ? I've never heard of this

[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There’s some serious bad blood in the AI academic world between the old farts that toiled thanklessly all through the thirty years of the AI winter, proving all sorts of fundamental theorems, only to get steam rolled by (relative) newcomers with big tech backing the very second tech started catching up to the math. Things got pretty heated with accusations of academic malpractice, and generic assholery.

Yann is one of the main participants in this drama. The other is a Swiss professor that is about equally friendly.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

wow it's just assholes all day 'round in ai land

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

And you should see the assholes that the uncensored image generators contribute!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Who's the swiss prof?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Schmidhuber

Note how the titles of his recent papers are all “ is a special case of <thing I published in the 90s>”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I like this part very much:

The term "schmidhubered" has been jokingly used in the AI community to describe Schmidhuber's habit of publicly challenging the originality of other researchers' work, a practice seen by some in the AI community as a "rite of passage" for young researchers. Some suggest that Schmidhuber's significant accomplishments have been underappreciated due to his confrontational personality.

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin 52 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

One thing you should know about him is that he is self reported to have a really good twitter game.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

Well I would if I had it

[–] hellofriend 4 points 4 weeks ago

Ehh, self reports are unreliable. Get me an objective study and then we'll talk

[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 weeks ago

Why doesn't the bigger asshole simply eat the other, smaller asshole?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Subtle dig also calling it "Twitter" to the one person who probably seethes when hearing that. Nice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Are you kidding? He's happy that this fake drama generates engagement.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I view the author list of industry papers more as a sales-and-marketing thing than as a real list of contributors, but shouldn't that be "Neuralink and E. Musk" anyway? The equivalent of the P. I. putting his name first like that is unorthodox.

[–] Contramuffin 7 points 4 weeks ago

It depends on the field. My understanding is that in physics, it's accepted to put the PI first. Seems weird to me, but I'm coming from biology, which is a PI-last field

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, Elon got a big book of middle school comebacks and considers himself well read.

Elon. Elon? Elon. Sit down Elon. No one believes you don't remember who this guy is.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago

Right? Every time I think Musk's behavior is "peak high school" he goes all elementary school on us.

[–] kevindqc 5 points 4 weeks ago

Elon already forgot? Must be the drugs