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[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's really sort of amazing how few years it took to go from "Do no evil" to "Don't even bother pretending not to."

[–] deweydecibel 105 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I get this is the go-to response now, for good reason, but there isn't really anything too shady going on with this particular case at least not from Google. This is more about them trying to keep SEOs from figuring out how they rank things so they can't pollute the search results even more.

Every comment is shitting on Google but here is the what the SEO expert said about the leak when it was presented to them:

This person’s sole aim appeared quite aligned with my own: to hold Google accountable for public statements that conflict with private conversations and leaked documentation, and to bring greater transparency to the field of search marketing. And they believed that, despite my years removed from SEO, I was the best person to share this publicly.

https://sparktoro.com/blog/an-anonymous-source-shared-thousands-of-leaked-google-search-api-documents-with-me-everyone-in-seo-should-see-them/

Just read through that blog. Look at the absolute indignity these SEO assholes have at the idea that the search engine wouldn't tell them exactly how to fuck it up with their garbage.

This is entirely about advertising. Hell, the leaker revealed their identity, and it's the guy that runs this company:

https://eaeagledigital.com/

Companies like this and the assholes behind them are a cancer on the internet and they have been for a very long time. You cannot point the finger at Google and not also point the finger at them, they are the other half of the shit equation.

[–] SquirrelX 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Next to upvoting, I'm just writing this to potentially get your comment ranked higher for this post.

[–] Jivebunny 1 points 1 month ago

Stuffing this comment with keywords in order to rank his comment higher. Upvoting, writing, ranking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

As I just noted on another response, mostly it was that I came up with a delicious turn of phrase and couldn't not post it. And yes, while broadly I think that Google deserves every bit of shit that's thrown their way and more - that they could vanish from the face of the Earth tomorrow and the internet could only benefit - this particular incident really isn't a good example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Oh FFS. Hadn't realized that implication yet. I fucking hate SEO internet polluters.

I suppose on the bright side maybe, between this and the garbage showing from their AI search, they'll actually dedicate the necessary resources to make their search usable.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Forgive me for not reading all 2500 documents, but I haven't heard anything to suggest there was a bunch of sinister stuff in there -- and there's nothing implicitly evil about having docs leaked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The main takeaway is that Google uses Chrome to collect data on what search results people click on and how long they spend on those pages. They then use that data to rank search results.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah, I see. That makes sense, but to be fair I think that was expected. I suspect they also pull the same data from every page where adsense is embedded regardless of browser, e.g., and every other company out there is aggregating the same sort of data every possible place they can get it from (shared sign ins, etc etc)

Edit: It's definitely a particularly bad look when there are several things in there that representatives for Google have apparently lied about over the years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have to admit that I was so pleased with that turn of phrase when it came to me that I went ahead and posted it in spite of the fact that this specific incident doesn't appear to be a good example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That feels remarkably intellectually honest. I doubt if I would have replied again in that case, so I don't know why anyone was downvoting this

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 month ago

Now it would be bloody awesome if someone would leak how their data collection in Android works and how much of their privacy policy is actually not just for good PR.

[–] cybersandwich 70 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Where are these docs? No one ever links to them or says where you can find them

[–] EarJava 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thousands of documents, which appear to come from Google’s internal Content API Warehouse, were released March 13 on Github by an automated bot called yoshi-code-bot.

[–] MashedTech -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

God, I hate GitHub. It always gets stuck when there are many changes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Ironfacebuster 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ripcord 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] cm0002 22 points 1 month ago

Fr, just like when those game source codes leak or whatever. It's cool and people want to download it just because, just link them lmao

[–] deweydecibel 21 points 1 month ago

They were leaked specifically to "SEO experts" who shared portions of it. I don't know if it was leaked publicly.

I'm basically what happened is the leaker is an SEO guy, that runs an SEO company, and leaked the documents to another SEO guy.

[–] HootinNHollerin 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I wonder if any are on Internet archive, and perhaps that’s why the ddos

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Hidden way back behind a machine.

[–] ripcord 3 points 1 month ago

That'd not where they've been primarily located, no.

[–] mypasswordis1234 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

There actually is a bot here for that

@[email protected] 12 hours

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oye reminding you after 12hrs

[–] mypasswordis1234 2 points 1 month ago
[–] Zachariah 43 points 1 month ago

A collection of 2,500 leaked internal documents from Google filled with details about data the company collects is authentic, the company confirmed today. Until now, Google had refused to comment on the materials.

The documents in question detail data that Google is keeping track of, some of which may be used in its closely guarded search ranking algorithm. The documents offer an unprecedented — though still murky — look under the hood of one of the most consequential systems shaping the web

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Has anyone gone through the documents? Any interesting findings? Is it time to create a website?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Look, at this point Google could just drown puppies on live stream and it won’t matter. They’ll just keep on Googling anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Its all about governments not protecting their citizens from the beginning, with things that are quite obvious. Even using these corporations in benefit for politicians. Corporations will always try to get the biggest beef at the lowest spending, there is no news here.

[–] LeroyJenkins 6 points 1 month ago

thank GOD the trump news broke or else this would've been major