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Hungary faces renewed pressure to drop its opposition to Kyiv’s accession bid.

Brussels officials are pushing to begin formal negotiations over Ukraine joining the European Union as early as next month, according to people familiar with the matter. 

Behind the scenes, diplomats from the EU and from Kyiv are working intensively to try to persuade the Hungarian government to give its approval to opening talks on Ukraine’s accession. 

Five diplomats, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the aim is to kickstart the formal negotiations as soon as June 25.

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[–] Viking_Hippie 32 points 7 months ago (3 children)

While they're at it, they should expel Hungary.

Orban's fascist regime and its love for Putin and the Trump cult is antithetical to the principles of peace and international cooperation that the EU is supposed to be about.

[–] b3an 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Throw in Turkey too.

How Turkey became Putin’s ‘pit stop’ for selling camouflaged fuel to the EU

Moscow bagged €3 billion through a sanctions loophole that allows Turkey to relabel Russian oil and ship it to the EU.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Good thing Turkey isn't part of the EU.

[–] b3an 7 points 7 months ago

Correct. While there is little to no progress on it, officially I believe they are still trying to be. That said, I was definitely thinking about NATO when I wrote that. Apologies for the mistake.

[–] Viking_Hippie 1 points 7 months ago
[–] samus12345 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So if they were formally accepted, would all of Europe join in the war directly since Russia would now be at war with Europe?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No, all territorial disputes must be settled before EU assimilation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Cyprus might beg to differ...

[–] samus12345 2 points 7 months ago

Makes sense.

[–] Badeendje 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Starting membership talks means the EU and the country hammering out what laws the country needs to change in order to align with EU regulations.

That means going over the whole UA legal code with a fine tooth comb.

Then about the organizational changes in the government and legal systems to enshrine the new laws, allowing companies time to adapt. Etc etc.

The whole process takes years if not decades. So of the war is still ongoing by then it would be an issue. But I think everyone expects it to be over by then.

Ukraine is keeping one eye on the war and the other on the future. This is why they are so reluctant to draft the young men ( 18 - 27 year olds). Just like most former Soviet states the countries have very big dents in their population pyramids stemming from WW2, the holodomor and Soviet policies. This hurts economic growth tremendously and compounds over time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Brussels officials are pushing to begin formal negotiations over Ukraine joining the European Union as early as next month, according to people familiar with the matter.

Behind the scenes, diplomats from the EU and from Kyiv are working intensively to try to persuade the Hungarian government to give its approval to opening talks on Ukraine’s accession.

Opening the talks would bring a morale boost to Ukraine, which has been fighting a full-scale Russian invasion for more than two years and has long aspired to join the Western bloc.

EU leaders told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy last December they wanted Ukraine and Moldova to join their club, potentially bringing its membership to 29 countries.

After EU leaders gave Kyiv a political thumbs-up, the next step in the accession process is to start formal talks via an intergovernmental conference with Ukraine.

Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orbán has been the biggest internal obstacle to the EU’s ongoing support for Ukraine over the past two years.


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