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[–] FlyingSquid 50 points 5 months ago (46 children)

I keep asking pro-Israel people here on Lemmy what the maximum number of children that they feel it is necessary to sacrifice in this war.

I get two answers, usually both together:

  1. Hamas is the one killing the children.
  2. If this was your country, you would kill lots of children too.

And they expect me to accept those answers as if they were true.

[–] ghostdoggtv 24 points 5 months ago

They're not really engaging with you, just like Israel isn't really interested in a dialogue about the situation. They just need you to think there's a civil dialogue being had so that we don't realize the need to stop them by force.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I keep asking pro-Israel people here on Lemmy what the maximum number of children that they feel it is necessary to sacrifice in this war.

You've got to see this from the Israeli perspective: An inside look at a terrorist group's summer camp for kids

This is quite literally how they see the world. Every child in Rafa is this child. Every adult is a terrorist cell leader. Every refugee is going to want revenge. Every survivor is going to join the next revolt.

Its the same logic American colonists used on First Nations people, as they carved their way westward. Its the logic Serbians used as they butchered their way through Bosnia. Its the logic American soldiers used in Hadditha and Kandahar. Children are just tiny future evil adults and killing them is right because they are incapable of doing anything but wrong.

[–] Maggoty 4 points 5 months ago

You had me in the first half.

[–] olafurp 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The going rate is 1:30 Israelis to Palestinians in revenge killing. For killing each Hamas militant they're allowed to kill around 20 as collateral damage. 50% in Gaza are children so 10 kids per Hamas militant is okay according to the Israeli government.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 5 months ago (35 children)

According to some people here, infinite kids per militant is okay to maintain Israeli security.

And I have no idea why they think a state that believes killing large numbers of children is acceptable is worth securing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (28 children)

Cool there's already one saying they're okay with all of them being killed

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As per item 2: If the enemy was using them as hostages I sure as shit wouldn't just bomb the building and kill everyone. I'd prefer to use special forces to go in on foot and secure the building with minimal casualties. And only when diplomacy fails.

The enemy was using them as shields because they didn't think you'd be that fucking stupid to just bomb everyone; they assumed you had some empathy.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

This is precisely the goal of Netanyahu - though I don't blame any individual who flees.

If Gaza is depopulated settlers can move in and claim the land.

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