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[–] Tolstoshev 76 points 6 months ago

The irony is that the game trained the playerbase to work well together to accomplish missions and now that solidarity is being turned against them.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I was about to buy the game, but past experiences thought me to be patient with new games. Another instance where patience is key.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago

There's literally no good reason to not wait at least a year for every game. I wait a lot longer and get it on sale.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I was waiting to buy it when it went on sale.

The problem now will be it will go on sale way earlier to try balance this negative review dump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Patient gamers wins once again!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's fucked. I was taking a bit of a break, maybe it becomes a permanent one.

[–] badcommandorfilename 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately they already have your money.

I was on vacation and planning to buy it when I got back and encourage all my ex LOL friends to join too, but...

Thank you for your service.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like Steam may be allowing refunds for this. Worth a try

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've heard that

A) you have to trigger a manual review (your first attempt will be denied by a bot, second refund request is usually manually reviewed). So you have to request a refund at least twice.

B) get lucky, because not everyone seems to be getting refunds.

It may be a regional thing (giving refunds to people who live in areas where PSN isn't available), or it could just be pure luck.

[–] pivot_root 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You won't know until you try.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Personally, I don't have the game. I was interested in getting it, but I've lost a lot of interest due to this move. However, I wanted to help let people know that it's worth asking for a refund, but that they may need to submit a second request before it's approved.

[–] darthelmet 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I tried a 2nd time and no dice on a manual review. Same automated message.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Go to your purchase history, find the purchase of Helldivers, click on it, click on I have a question about that transaction. Then write your refund request

[–] Veraxus 9 points 6 months ago

Steam is currently granting refunds regardless of play time. Open a support ticket (the automated system is still subject to the default rules).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Same. I was getting bored and tired of the balance patch > bug cycle. Figured I’d put it down till probably the illuminate arrival. Now I guess I won’t get the experience of being the only diver fighting the squids like in the first game. Shame, but I got my money’s worth.

[–] Decq 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So I might be out of the loop. But I was curious to buy this game. So I wonder, what is the actual 'official' reason/benefit of linking to PSN? And would this introduce another launcher on PC? That would be a no go then as a launcher is usually the first thing that fucks up on proton/remote play. Although I assume there already is a launcher..

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Doesn't include a launcher you just link your account, that said I personally refuse purely on moral grounds. People in many countries cannot play because PSN straight up doesn't support their country.

Also their reasons are lies, I am tired of being lied to and told it's not a big deal. Sure signing up for a Psn is easy and free, but I am tired of being forced to do things as a consumer that I'm told is for my benefit when in reality it is solely for the publisher.

The official reason they want it is because supposedly it helps them ban problematic players, which I don't understand the need for in this game in the first place. Secondly they can already do this through steam. Look up discord screenshots from the Arrowhead community manager by the Discord name spitz. You'll see company responses, I'm too lazy to add them today.

Here is the real reason sony wants this. Tech companies use account metrics for shareholder presentation to show growth. "Sony added 330 million new PSN accounts in 2024 alone, and had 6 billion more transactions on the PlayStation network in 2024" this is a fictional example of how they can spin this crap. Dipshit investors aren't going to understand the underlying reason why this spike happened and Sony will elaborate as little as possible. This could lead to massive growth in sony stock, at the very least it looks good. This is the only real reason sony is so interested, it has nothing to do with security or moderation and everything to do with internal growth metrics of corpo pigs. That's my take at least.

[–] drislands 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The 'official' reason, as I recall reading it, is increasing security for players. Link to the announcement.

Personally I think that's a load of hooey.

FWIW this won't involve a new launcher, to my knowledge.

[–] Decq 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the Sony 'security'. Too bad then. I still remember the rootkits they installed with music cd's. I've yet to buy anything Sony since then.. Guess I'll continue doing that.

Thanks for the clarification.

[–] drislands 2 points 6 months ago

Happy I could help, sorry to hear bad news.

[–] Maalus 5 points 6 months ago

There's no reason, since the game worked fine for so long. They say it's for security and thst they can't ban specific people because steam has duplicate nicknames. Which is bullshit, since steam had steamid and other identifiers that let you identify the specific account.

It's just corporate greed to 1. show shareholders there is a ton of psn accounts and that the console is doing fine 2. Sell that data to someone.