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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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“I spent more than 12 hours reporting from the Gaza Solidarity Occupation at USC today. I didn’t see any antisemitism. What I did see was militarized police arrest pro-Palestinian students who were peacefully protesting,” stated Spectrum News journalist Jeremy Lindenfeld.

Jody David Armour, the Roy P. Crocker Professor of Law at the University of Southern California, said, “I’ve been here from early this morning and contrary to what’s being said by the administration, these are students, not “outside agitators” and they were not escalating. The cops have been doing the escalating!”

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The cops are the outside agitators. Every time lol.

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Something something those who work forces are the same that burn crosses. Ughh.

[–] PoopSpiderman 27 points 7 months ago

You aren’t allowed to protest Israel. That’s where Jesus is going to come back. Israel can do what it wants, and America will pay for it because Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Israel has been given a blank check and PR cover for decades. It's finally been challenged and in such a way that globally it will never be looked at the same way again. They can try, Repubs and Dem enablers may try, but the civilian slaughter, women and children being murdered, the choking off of food and water, the mass graves, the AI killing machines, the ongoing apartheid, the never ending land grabs and illegal settlement building, the constant subjugation of an entire people. It can't be unseen and now by more and more people. Even Schumer called for leadership change.

It is damaging western governments who give blanket support meanwhile they and their citizens see the horrors and the hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

I can’t believe NYPD and LAPD, bastions, of peace and de-escalation, would throw their weight around like this /s

[–] Hotmailer 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Zionists doubling down, showing how they don't care about anyone. All they care about is maintaining power and a narrative of victimhood even when they're the aggressors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Kent State, fuck the police!