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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sustainably? They don’t (mostly). Most are either pet projects, paid for out of pocket by the instance owner or run off donations. Neither are particularly sustainable long term, with rare exceptions like sdf.org.

The SDF runs just about every federated service you can think of, and has done so since the 1980s, run almost entirely off donations. Started as a dialup BBS (still active).

[–] CascadianBeam 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I enjoyed checking out the open collective link that was shared by another commenter.

I pretty much knew the answer to my question but mission accomplished in the sense of getting more info.

I suppose out of pet project versus donation, the latter is the less of two evils.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

I think it's a good question to ask anyways just so more people see it and learn more how this all works. Myself included. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I donate to them because i believe in the cause. Its $1 per month, so not like its breaking the bank. But if every user donated the same, they would have more than enough to cover the bills

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to pay a dollar a month to Apollo. I’m happy to donate it to a Lemmy instance.

[–] mysoulishome 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep Steve Huffman literally said he didn’t want our dirty 3rd party app loving money so fuck them, let’s help build the feddiverse

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

All that idiot had to do was monetize 3rd party apps by expanding the API to allow for the purchase of coins/awards in return for something like a 5% cut going to the devs. Too late now though, we're all in a vastly superior social media site.

[–] kenbw2 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Could you share a link? I've been trying to find a way to donate

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Great I signed up on Patreon monthly donation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago
[–] Jackcooper 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What's the difference between mastodon and lemmy

[–] kaotic 9 points 2 years ago

Mastodon is similar to Twitter, while Lemmy is similar to Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See the heart button up top in the web client.

[–] kenbw2 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's to support the Lemmy software but I'm looking to donate to the Lemmy.world instance

[–] toasteranimation 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's in the sidebar of the lemmy.world front page. Links below!

https://www.patreon.com/mastodonworld

https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

FYI the lemmy.world admins should have changed it then to whatever they want. It's supposed to be the default place for support links. You should let them know.

[–] emptyother 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you check out the opencollective link in lemmy worlds sidebar, theres a budget breakdown there. And how much they gain in donations.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or you could just to go the head admin's blog, where he does financial breakdowns of where the whole *.world thing is up to (they run multiple instances).

https://blog.mastodon.world/

As of May, they've been making money from donations.

[–] ninekeysdown 7 points 2 years ago

That’s awesome! Glad to see that my donations from canceling Reddit premium are making a difference. Hopefully the owners can eventually make an actual living off of this. Would be good for everyone involved

[–] CascadianBeam 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I found it! Very informative. Thanks. I hope the donations keep flowing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if you found it, can you share it?

[–] Chickenstalker 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Charge USD0.50 for every swear word posted or the reply won't appear.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This..... is actually a pretty fucking good idea.

[–] chk232 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago
[–] AFLYINTOASTER 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Make it $.01 and you might actually have a good idea on your hands. Big enough to matter given the thousands of users, small enough for the average user not to care.

The hard part is running a secure and private payment system on top of this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

It would need to be on a credit system. $0.01 is going to get eaten up in processing. It would be extra funny to buy 100 fucks for a dollar though.

[–] FordBeeblebrox 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d drop $5 just to get ready for game day threads. Fuck the Habs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Sir you don't have any credit right now. Please edit your comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bitcoin lightning network has entered the chat

[–] MrFlamey 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Feels like sarcasm, but I can't tell.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Nope. I'm no expert, but lightning network fees get down to something like $0.0003 and transactions are instant, it would be great for this sort of thing.

[–] Trapping5341 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for asking this. This is something I've been serious about for awhile. Turns out while it's expensive in the grand scheme of giant website it's not that expensive money wise. Though it is very time expensive.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IDK, I thought I saw they said it cost $300-400 a month to host, for a personal expense that's pretty significant for most folks (plus the time, though it seems to be a labor of love).

[–] Trapping5341 6 points 2 years ago

Oh that's for sure a big expense for most people myself included but if you go to the open collective link above the estimated budget for lemmy.world this year is only 16k ish. and thats to host one of if not the biggest instance right now. if every user donated a dollar the instance could run possibly for years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Where can I donate to lemmy.ml as well?

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