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Elizabeth Warren says she believes Israel’s war in Gaza will legally be considered a genocide - POLITICO (www.politico.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/leftism

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[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile-

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/09/us-has-seen-no-evidence-that-israel-has-committed-genocide-austin-says-00151241

[+] JustZ -15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hmm which one would have the information to know, the Senator from Massachusetts who sits on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, or the Secretary of Defense?

[–] FlyingSquid 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How about everyone who has seen the daily coverage for the past six months?

How about people who have been paying attention to Israelis talking about Gaza beachfront property or using nukes on Palestine?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68650815

https://apnews.com/article/israel-nuclear-weapons-gaza-iran-china-1e18f34dcec40582166796b0ade65768

How about the UN, which has announced that over 12,000 children in Gaza have been killed, more than all children in every conflict in the world combined over the last 4 years?

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147512

So which one would have more reason to tell the truth? The U.N. or Israel's ally, the U.S.?

I'm looking forward to you claiming that the BBC, the Associated Press and the UN are all just tools of Hamas.

[–] JustZ -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No I'm all set with the opinions of anyone whose media diet over six months consists of wolfing down daily talking-head speculation and conjecture.

I don't think that at all of the BBC or AP, have friends who've made careers at both, they write right in their articles "we were unable to independently verify such reports" when they run with outrageous claims of third and fourth hand reports. There are also plenty of pan-Islamists in the UN and elsewhere, real "death-to-America" types, dreaming of the day that "Islam is restored to its rightful place in the world." The whole thing with the UN is that any country can join and be heard. They have all types and all opinions at the UN.

The Secretary of Defense absolutely knows more than anyone you've mentioned, and perhaps an incentive to lie, sure, I'll give you that. But he's seen the raw intelligence on Hamas, their tunnels, their capabilities, their command structure, along with Israel's operations, their efforts to warn, their raw explanations for targeting decisions. And he's seen who made the choices that put these kids in harms way, who has been encouraging Palestinian people to stay in their homes to die as Martyrs, amwho pays people to commit war crimes. But most of all the Defense Secretary's duty is to sort through the noise and be rational, not sit around being so sad over 33,000 people that he loses sight of the millions of lives his office is called to protect.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry... you're saying Hamas is a threat to millions of American lives?

[–] JustZ 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

God no. Iran is a threat to millions of middle eastern lives.

[–] snek 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

OI don't doubt that Iran has a shitty backwards government. But remind me, who killed the last 30+ FUCKING THOUSAND middle easterns?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 9 months ago

This is about whether or not Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. What relevance does Iran have to that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

“We are doing everything we can to encourage the Israelis to open more land routes [for aid] and to separate the Palestinian people from Hamas,” Austin added. “Failure to do so will create more terrorists.”

Failure for the US to reprimand Israel's genocide-like actions will also create more terrorists.