Russian competence at work.
Keep a look for the shadows.
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Does the lack of a shadow not make it obvious that these are decoys anyway?
Probably works around noon at least?
9 a clock: it's a decoy
12: it's a plane
15: it's a decoy
Lol
9 a clock: it's a decoy
12: it's a plane
15: it's a decoy
Lol
Is this the decoy comment? Or is it the other one?
Unfortunately it's always high noon somewhere in the world so it's impossible to know
I agree with people saying this might be mostly for satellite images, but even a drone pilot, staring at a shaky and noisy camera image due to the distance, EW and other interference, might have a hard time telling a decoy from a real one, well, unless there's a helicopter on it of course.
You and I have the luxury of not being in combat and not seeing the target for a second or two.
In real time it might trick a pilot and as dumb as it sounds if you manage to trick a pilot and have them target paint then itβs worked.
I like to think the prevalence e of these decoys indicates the failings of the Russian military but in fairness everyone does it.
I think it's more to deceive intelligence operators going over satellite images; I don't think Ukraine are flying manned sorties with jets over Russian airspace.
Same concept though.
If you fool someone 1 time itβs worked, instead of target acquisition at speed replace it with target acquisition under duress and while overloaded.
Pretty sure they are not doing this to fool enemy pilots, they are trying to trick analysts looking at satellite imagery.
I guess it's still time spent from the operator to analyze and decide. This instead will make it a 0 time decision (and also a good chuckle)
Drones and bombers are usually far enough away that the shadow wouldn't render in the first place. So unless you have FPV drone in that chunk it would look normal
"Sergeant, the Ukrainians don't seem to fall for our decoy plane"
"Well, just park a heli on top of it, that will entice them to waste bombs on a decoy"
Decoy jets not working? Add shadows and a decoy heli to the design! This will be a fun cat and mouse game, soon they will just be circles of shadows.
Bomb the blyats.
I bet it'd be more convincing if they didn't paint it perfectly on the centerline......
Something looks off about the helicopter on top too. I'm sure they rolled out thousands of these mats with all kinds of variations, some with decoy copters, some with painted copters clearly not matching the shadow (so actual-copters can land there). We've seen their elaborate decoy setups so this would introduce another element of decoy-ism, and make it harder to know when real things are/aren't there.
It also looks elevated, either higher on the right or higher on the left side but that could be my eyes playing tricks.
Stupid like a fox!
I'd like to think they parked on it intentionally