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[–] v1605 10 points 10 months ago

It's crazy that there is even anything close in this election. The only hope at this point is if enough republicans get tired of all the "woke war" bullshit and the orange turd's multiple court cases that they just don't bother to vote. Political races are treated more like the Superbowl than an important part of our lives, so I just don't see them voting against "their team".

[–] stanleytweedle 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is all that 'likely voter' demographic that somehow all still have landlines and answer calls from unknown numbers and tell strangers who they intend to vote for.

Someone needs to fill in the 'holy shit they exist?' voter demographic.

[–] jeffw 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Would be a valid criticism if anyone still conducted polls like that, i guess?

https://morningconsult.com/survey-research-innovation/ (talks about their methodology, or for general polling, see the following)

https://medium.com/@hassen.morad/addressing-the-landline-only-polling-myth-473dbb6d46bd

[–] stanleytweedle -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well their promotional material is doing a good job at least ;)

[–] jeffw 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] stanleytweedle -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That shows Morning Consults sources are 100% online... which means their 'likely voter' claims can't be validated by their polling methods. All the orange (landline) in that graph is what these 'likely voter' polls are talking about, because that method can reliably be used to validate identity and 'likely voter' status.

So I guess +1 for showing Morning Consults is an online poller, not landline, but -10 for thinking online polling isn't a joke and another -10 for not understanding how 'likely voters' are validated.

[–] jeffw 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I always think it’s funny when people don’t understand statistics and they think poll results are just reported straight up and not weighted for a bunch of factors

[–] jeffw 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

? You posted a misleading comment and I corrected it. This poll was run by that company, but nobody does simple cold calling on landlines anymore.

[–] stanleytweedle -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You posted the company's promo material. You haven't 'corrected' anything.

I mean feel free to- idk why you're so hostile but if you have material demonstrating their sources and how they contacted 'likely voters' for this survey I'd be interested. But just linking the company's promotional website and acting like you dropped the mic is just silly.

[–] jeffw 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You’re accusing me of being hostile? You’re an odd one lol. The “no you’re angry, not me!” trick doesn’t really work on people over 8. I linked to a longer explanation about polling in general, but considering you didn’t want to read the original link, I doubt you’ll read anything else

Edit: in case you don’t want to click the link again, they primarily rely on online polls, as stated in the material in my original link. That’s why I linked to the website with their methodology?

[–] stanleytweedle -4 points 10 months ago

I replied to your other comment. I know I'm exciting to talk to but let's keep it to one chain ;)