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Would be a valid criticism if anyone still conducted polls like that, i guess?
https://morningconsult.com/survey-research-innovation/ (talks about their methodology, or for general polling, see the following)
https://medium.com/@hassen.morad/addressing-the-landline-only-polling-myth-473dbb6d46bd
Well their promotional material is doing a good job at least ;)
In case you’re open to learning and not just here to troll:
https://medium.com/@hassen.morad/addressing-the-landline-only-polling-myth-473dbb6d46bd
That shows Morning Consults sources are 100% online... which means their 'likely voter' claims can't be validated by their polling methods. All the orange (landline) in that graph is what these 'likely voter' polls are talking about, because that method can reliably be used to validate identity and 'likely voter' status.
So I guess +1 for showing Morning Consults is an online poller, not landline, but -10 for thinking online polling isn't a joke and another -10 for not understanding how 'likely voters' are validated.
I always think it’s funny when people don’t understand statistics and they think poll results are just reported straight up and not weighted for a bunch of factors
Oh, didn't realize I was speaking to an expert that understands 'weighting for a bunch of factors' ;)
By all means please explain the methods for maintaining accuracy in online polls.
https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2020/02/18/assessing-the-risks-to-online-polls-from-bogus-respondents/
That gets into how they enhance accuracy. Weighting to reflect your population is just basic stats though. Maybe check Khan Academy or some other math tutor?
lol- my dude... wish I could share how funny this conversation is with you, but that's what makes it so funny ;)
Sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to learn doesn’t make it funny, it’s just sad. And using all the basic suggestions after you googled “how do I act condescending on social media” also makes it sad, but you do you bud
Seriously- loving this. Tell me about the 'bunch of factors' and 'basic stats' you're so knowledgeable about weighting ;) Soon though, 'bout to head out for the day.
It’s funny how pathetic people act after you present them with evidence that they are wrong. This is some Reddit shit though. Most interactions I’ve had on Lemmy are better than this
Some people are just incapable of admitting they were wrong. It's amazing, actually.
I can honestly say I feel marginally dumber having reading your condescending comment chain here acting like you have some privileged knowledgeable nobody else does, all the while somebody is actually genuinely responding with information explaining why the polls are the way they are, and you act like a pompous jackal.
If you aren't trolling, I just feel sorry for you.
Still not hearing anything about these 'factor bunches' you understand so well. You just seem kinda angry and confused. Still loving the energy though ;)
? You posted a misleading comment and I corrected it. This poll was run by that company, but nobody does simple cold calling on landlines anymore.
You posted the company's promo material. You haven't 'corrected' anything.
I mean feel free to- idk why you're so hostile but if you have material demonstrating their sources and how they contacted 'likely voters' for this survey I'd be interested. But just linking the company's promotional website and acting like you dropped the mic is just silly.
You’re accusing me of being hostile? You’re an odd one lol. The “no you’re angry, not me!” trick doesn’t really work on people over 8. I linked to a longer explanation about polling in general, but considering you didn’t want to read the original link, I doubt you’ll read anything else
Edit: in case you don’t want to click the link again, they primarily rely on online polls, as stated in the material in my original link. That’s why I linked to the website with their methodology?
I replied to your other comment. I know I'm exciting to talk to but let's keep it to one chain ;)