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I installed NetGuard about a month ago and blocked all internet to apps, unless they're on a whitelist. No notifications from this particular system app (that can't be disabled) until recently when it started making internet connection requests to google servers. Does anyone know when this became a thing?

Edit 2: I bought my Pixel 6 phone outright, directly from Google's Australian store. I have no creditors.

Were the courts not enough control for creditors? Since when are they allowed to lock you out of your purchased property without a court order?

I don't even live in the US, so what the actual fuck?

Edit 1: You can check it's installed (~~stock~~ Pixel 6 android 14) Settings > Apps > All Apps > three dot menu, Show system > search "DeviceLockController".

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Weird, I have project fi and don't have this app. It could be contractually required by your service provider that the app be installed on all the phones that they sell. That's a thing that they do.

Who is the carrier?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

still allows access to settings

Oh thank goodness

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[–] squid_slime 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

damn and no one at google saw this as dystopian?

[–] Anticorp 13 points 9 months ago

They saw this reality and thought it was awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Were the courts not enough control for creditors? Since when are they allowed to lock you out of your purchased property without a court order?

I don't think courts are typically involved for civil repossession.

But it sounds like this is used when the device isn't your purchased property, but leased on contract.

I guess it makes sense for them to do this if people started leases, paid the first month to get the phone in their hand, then walked away with the nice new phone they paid like $35 for, to sell or just use off-network.

[–] MisterFrog 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well, I would say this is what small claims is for.

Should the bank should have keys to a mortgaged house? When you don't own the house outright yet? I'm gonna go with no.

And second, why is it installed by default on all phones? Really not cool.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What's stopping someone from enabling debug mode, downloading adb tools and running pm uninstall --user0 then the package name? Surely with the app removed, the app can't brick your phone. Or running a custom rom like lineage or graphine os?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What’s stopping someone ...

Your average someone has no idea what any of that means.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Fuck the entirety of this noise.

[–] Crack0n7uesday 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apple does it to, but I've only ever seen it happen when you buy your phone on a payment plan as part of your service agreement through your service provider. Kind of like if you lease a car and stop making payments they can lock the engine from turning over.

[–] MisterFrog 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm of the strong opinion that this ought not to be a thing. Even if you stop paying rent, they can kick you out, but there's a process they need to follow (in Australia anyway).

These software locks means they can do whatever they want, even if they're in the wrong, and then you're shit out of luck until you can take them to court, if you even have the time to do it...

It's so wrong, because of the power imbalance I really think this kind of thing should be railed against at all costs.

Google should not install this shit by default, and sneakily as well.

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[–] MrJameGumb 9 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I'm in the US and it's not on my phone and even though it's listed in the Play Store it says it's not available in my region

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