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The People of Los Angeles Just Said "Yes" to Safer Streets (www.strongtowns.org)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/fuckcars

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Here's some uplifting news: the people of LA have voted and are aggressively backing safer streets. Change, even if slow, can happen.

"Under HLA, not only is the city obligated to install elements of its Mobility Plan, which can include bike lanes, bollards, daylighting, and wider sidewalks, but it must also track progress for the public online. It if [sic] fails to do so, residents can sue."

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[–] CosmoNova 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was under the assumption that’s what they always wanted. The question is: Will L.A.‘s politicians listen this time and not find the most convoluted way to do everything but acting on what people want yet again?

[–] graymess 5 points 8 months ago

HLA lets us sue if they don't, so that's something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'm hopeful. This measure forces visibility of progress and allows any regular citizen to sue the city if they try to weasel out. I can't imagine a city politician taking a position of "we're going to fight this ridiculous lawsuit about not installing a wider sidewalk for as long as it takes." That's a real bad look, especially given this measure passed 65% for, 35% against. It would be political suicide.

[+] [email protected] -56 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Ha! I just went to LA a couple months ago for an emergency and commented how easy it was to navigate without all the BS obstructions and distractions. Just simple, intelligent roads with predictable rules for all; everyone making do. Gosh it was like setting a game on easy mode where reason made sense again.

Then I got home to new "no right on red" signs, bike boxes nooooobody will frigging use in this town ' cuz they can't be bothered to stop, and an email from city planning telling me the dangerous changes they made are not their liability so it doesn't concern them. Don't bother down voting, I know where I posted this.

Welcome to maximum stress, chaos, and pitting your citizens against each other LA. Tips hat to you

[–] art 49 points 8 months ago

Sorry to hear that less people dying is so inconvenient for you. Must be really hard.

[–] Maven 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Allowing a right turn on red is actually a danger in multiple ways.

Just one source

[–] PunnyName 40 points 8 months ago

You are what people pejoratively call "car brain".

[–] waz 9 points 8 months ago

I realize this is focusing on only one part of your comment, but "no right on red" I would argue is less confusing and a lower cognitive load than the alternative. You don't need to pay attention to anything other than a traffic light. You don't have to check for pedestrians, or bikes or cars or anything. It should be really hard to mess up.

What am I missing? What part is adding stress and chaos?