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The problem is not that the wrong people keep getting elected, it’s that the elections don’t matter and voters don’t have a say.

Decided to share this article being seen online in some circles. Thoughts on this?

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[–] lettruthout 4 points 8 months ago

I was going to point out that a lot of money is being spent to get my vote but then realized that elections are just like war. The reason is not to settle anything, it’s just to make someone rich.

[–] zerkrazus 2 points 8 months ago

I agree. Elections are about conning gullible and stupid people into thinking they have some say in what goes on. They don't. We're an oligarchy-kleptocracy and have been since at least the 1980s, if not earlier.

People think the primaries allow us to pick candidates, but do they really? Not IMO. How often do you see a random Joe or Jane from a middle of nowhere town of 200 people as one of the candidates? Hardly ever. And even if they were, would they ever get the nomination? Doubtful. The oligarchs pick the candidates for the primaries.

Even if someone honestly believes we have a democracy, we don't at least not when it comes to presidential elections, not IMO anyways. Those who vote are voting for electors, who is, in theory, supposed to then vote for the candidate the voters voted for, but they don't have to AFAIK (faithless electors). IMO democracy is direct, not indirect. I know there's representative democracy (indirect), which is what we have, in theory, but I don't agree that it's that democratic. Especially when the oligarchs get to pick who they want to run.

Electoral politics are a sham and you can’t vote out fascists and oligarchs. They will just change the rules if the election doesn't go the way they want. And yes, both Democrats & Republicans are fascists and run by oligarchs.

[–] randomdeadguy 2 points 8 months ago

I believe I'll just vote third-party instead! 🚮

[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I agree with the title, but not the article.

In my opinion, what we need are numbers and persistence. The government can pull as many strings as it wants, but if enough people care, turn out, demand change, and accept some level of sacrifice to have it... We'd get it. I think it's squarely on us.

I get a little irritated with articles like this because all they do is promote hopelessness and work to ensure we stay powerless.

Are we really okay growing old while accepting we're nothing more than fuel for a machine because it's indifferent to our humanity?