Not sure how other people are but I couldn't not have a smartphone for my job. Feels like that's either a luxury for rich people or one tiny benefit for people with lower demand jobs who are done with the job when they leave the office
this post was submitted on 29 Feb 2024
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I'll just divert all my calls and texts to my wife's phone and have my son handle all my administrative tasks. I'm also refusing to check email before noon and I decline meetings because they are not productive.
Hang on, my wife just told me my boss says I no longer have to work at all now!
Feels like that's either a luxury for rich people or one tiny benefit for people with lower demand jobs who are done with the job when they leave the office
what do you mean by "lower demand jobs who are done with the job when they leave the office"?
Like a job where they don't expect to be able to reach you outside of office hours
If a company requires you to always be available, that's a huge red flag, honestly.
where i live, "they" can't expect you to be reachable outside of office hours. "lower demand" or whatever a "higher demand" job may be.
when the limits are clearly defined by law, employers can't abuse people like you who seem to have weaker positions
Seems like you're making a lot of assumptions. I'm in sales. I make money by being responsive, and having a smartphone gives me tools to use wherever I am instead of having to always going to a computer or tablet like the article describes
i was arguing with someone "in sales" about how there may be more important things in life than being responsive to make money at all times?
my bad. excuse me mister higher demand job
joking aside, you're probably young (excuse my assumption) if you still don't feel the urgency of disconnecting from work and having some undistracted time for yourself and your loved ones. Enjoy it while you can still do that without burning out
Again, you're making a lot of assumptions, which are incorrect. Not trying to give away all my personal information so I'll skip that.
I wasn't saying anything like "being responsive to make money at all times". We're commenting on a thread about an article advocating people get rid of their smartphones, and I said I couldn't do my job without a smartphone.
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Feels like that's either a luxury for rich people or one tiny benefit for people with lower demand jobs who are done with the job when they leave the office
it's not a luxury
what's a lower demand job?
why aren't you done with your job when you leave the office or if you're working from home like so many people, at a certain hour?
you permit yourself to make assumptions about so many people, i make assumptions (or rather deductions) from what you write
and i'm getting tired of this discussion. Glue that thing to your head if that makes you even more money 🤷
If u want to reach me outside of office hours i will be getting paid for all the time u want me to be listening otherwise u will be ignored.
To be honest I do get paid a lot more for this type of job than one where I'm strictly available 9-5.
a choice most people won't make. That's why you're paid a lot more
They do.
You’re not getting full time salary, but you’re getting paid a hell of a lot more than the 1% of the time you’re actually needed.
Like on-call duty ? It is to the company to provide you a phone then.
Well it's not the cost of the phone we're talking about, the article is about having some carefree phone free lifestyle
I feel similarly. My job uses all kinds of 2FA and email-chain nonsense that pretty much require me to keep one as well. I'm starting to learn how to retrofit a special half-dumb phone to do those required things, but it's quite a process compared to what George Clooney got to do
Who's going to read the verge article if we all ditch our phones ?