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    [–] [email protected] 68 points 9 months ago (3 children)
    [–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] olafurp 6 points 9 months ago

    Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Linus Torvalds?

    [–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I'm not going to say anything more than: rtl8821ce

    [–] bbuez 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    shudder

    Was an Asus laptop, I'm yet to struggle so much again

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Can confirm. Easiest install was my first one. Hardest install was my most recent one.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    why?, how did you configured your last install?

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

    First install was Ubuntu 9.04 on a very basic and mainstream Dell desktop at the time. Most recent was Arch on a 2013 MacBook Air. Honestly, the only thing that made this complicated was that the bootloader was so out of date that it didn't recognize the newer NVME drive I put in it. After installing Arch, I messed around for a while getting the Fn/shortcut keys set up perfectly. I would not have even thought of doing that back in 2009.

    [–] Siegfried 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    After 14 years of debian, I decided to give arch a try... maybe I'm doing something wrong but it feels pretty easy for now for what I was expecting

    [–] turbowafflz 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah I use arch on some of my computers and really don't get what people are talking about. As long as you're fairly comfortable doing some things from the command line it's really easy to maintain

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

    Until you run it for more than a year and have more packages installed. Like everyday something doesn't work for me (ok granted some of it is my own fault). My arch install feels like it's held together by ductape and some silly string.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

    I don't think this function is linear.

    I think it trends lower on the low end of the "technical ability" axis because it's perfectly fine for grandma who just uses the internet, plays solitaire and occasionally emails, and who needs a family member to sysadmin their computer whether it's Windows or Linux. You can usually drop Mint on their old computer to keep it running and even speed it up a bit after Windows stops supporting it, and save them from buying a PC for awhile.

    There's a bump up for folks who are making the switch on their own because they're not used to the ecosystem and might have hardware they like that is poorly supported in Linux; I remember my own early days trying to make the machine I already had work and having to install stuff from Git, now that I choose hardware for Linux compatibility that decreases.

    There's a valley in the middle where "This is fine, it works satisfactorily."

    Then at the high end of technical ability you have people who have opinions about systemd.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    it just works for me and thats why im still using it.

    but then again i dont overcomplicate things.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

    "Hey guis check out this new shiny esoteric desktop, I modded the shit out of it too hehehe"

    Next day

    "Hey guis, halp, how do you unfuck whatever it is I did here?"

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    That's an f(x) = x when it should be an f(x) = x - 1000.

    CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    You can’t say that, if you don’t see the scale!

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    Better 😁

    [–] Siegfried 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Why are you assuming that the y scale doesn't start at -1000?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Because you can clearly see the X axis?

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    The placement of the x axis says nothing about the values on the y axis. By convention it's often placed at y=0, but plenty of plots make this impossible or impractical or simply not desired.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

    Same thing with development.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

    I'm way over this. I keep a lot of it standard now except some interface changes. Less things to break then

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    This is how I got to Arch, or is it just a middle stop?

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

    I always assumed everything else is a middle stop on the way to LFS, though I might prove myself wrong someday.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I think you have the axes reversed..? Or maybe I didn't get the joke? The technical needs are caused by higher technical ability, so the ability should be the x axis and the needs should be y.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

    No the computer knows how technically capable you are and gives you problems that will still frustrate you

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    There's still no Arch-based OotB distro with refind, booster initrc, s6-init & s6-rc, turnstile + seatd session with touch-friendly notification-center in qt for wayland with pipewire.

    :-(

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    I know this is a meme but this is why I like being a a PopOS peasant. Proudly so, even