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You should know this because finding communities on lemmy can be tough.

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[–] hyperyog 9 points 2 years ago

For readability purposes, can you add "Why YSK:" and include the reason for this post in accordance to rule 2?

[–] owatnext 85 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rule 2: make sure the body of your post contains Why YSK: and an explanation of why you should know.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And (at the moment, at least) we can edit the post title and body. So it is fixable. 👍

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's hiding kbin magazines. There should be no difference between kbin magazines and lemmy communities when searching and exploring.

And they could fix this if they wanted to.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just wanted to drop this version here in case you weren't seeing any Kbin magazines on there- https://lemmyverse.net/kbin/magazines?order=followers
There's a toggle in the upper right menu to show Kbin magazines c:
If you mean some are missing though, apologies for the misunderstanding!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's possible, but there is no reason at all to have the kbin magazines separate from the communities.
They all federate the same, so why not list them all the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because Kbin and Lemmy aren't the same thing. Kbin works with Lemmy, but it also works with other federated platforms, as well, such as Mastodon.

I'm guessing that the differences in the way Kbin works probably makes it difficult to include in the normal list.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

For communities they both work the same, hey we're talking here right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it can be beneficial for when people are interested in finding communities that originate from one or the other, though I do agree that a more inclusive search would be beneficial and make it easier to find spaces

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would be a good argument for a filter instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah. I'm sure navigation will become easier on there in the not-too-distant future. There's just some growing pains to push through for a great many things all over right now, and that's alright

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is a page in the menu for browsing Kbin magazines, but I agree. It would be better to have both on one page.

[–] poshinoposhi 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because… ?

I’m still learning how2lemmy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Because if nobody on your instance has ever subscribed to a certain community on a different instance - it won't show up in search results on your instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

lemmyverse allows for you to search for any community in any instance, even ones that your instance hasn't federated with yet. You can then search the community link in your home instance and then subscribe to that community, which will cause your instance to federate with it from them on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Lemmy explorer is great. It made me realize the only way I knew how to find subreddits was to stumble on them.

[–] wolfcatreader 5 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I dont get why a third party site can see more of the fediverse than the fediverse can.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A brand new instance on the fediverse doesn't initially know about any other instances. Only when someone searches for a community@instance does it then go talk to that instance and subscribe to get posts/comments etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Maybe you can help me. I joined under Lemm.ee. I want to subscribe to c/[email protected] but it doesn't show up on my search list. What do I type in to find it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Search [email protected]. Make sure to include the exclamation mark. Give it about 30 seconds and search it again, and the community should appear, and now you can subscribe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Thanx for the reply! For some reason, I didn't get the results in my search bar via the Connect app, but I was able to subscribe via my desktop. Not sure what the difference is, but at least I can see my working cats now :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm also not sure what the difference is, but the desktop app does seem to be better about initial federation. Glad you were able to get your working cats, feel free to ask if you have any other questions

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

It sees the same information, just aggregates it differently I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same here. I understand the whole notion of how an instance is able to "see" communities on another instance on the fediverse. But I don't get what these kinds of website do differently to see all communities on all instances and why instances can't do that directly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They explain it on the project's GitHub:

How does discovery work?

It uses a seed list of communities and scans the equivalent of the /instances federation lists, and then creates jobs to scan each of those servers.

How long till my instance shows up?

How long it takes to discover a new instance can vary depending on if you post content that's picked up by one of these servers.

Since the crawler looks at lists of federated instances, we can't discover instances that aren't on those lists.

Additionally, the lists are cached for 24 hours, so it can take up to 24 hours for an instance to show up after it's been discovered till it shows up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And why is it using this method, and not the third party sites method that sees more?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The Fediverse (Lemmy/Mastodon/etc) is based on a following/subscribing model; each instance only "sees" what it's users are currently following or subscribed to. This keeps storage and systems usage lower since each instance doesn't need a complete copy of the entire Fediverse. This third party is more like a web crawler like Google, just crawling from instance to instance and saving the data. Hopefully in the future Lemmy could add something like this discovery feature, maybe something like Mastodon Relays, to aggregate community lists, but it would definitely put more strain on each instance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Bookmarked. 🙏

[–] BullsOnParade 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And to add, if you want more directly to see the data on activity of the instances and communities, switch the view to "List" from the default "Grid"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Cheers. Great little site

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I love this website, it shows all the communities and instances without any biased filters whatsoever!

[–] sparkle 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do I use it? Do I search for the community in-app once I see it there?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, copy the link to the community and paste it into the search box on your instance. Then subscribe to it when it shows up. I always do this from the web interface but maybe it works through the app also.

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