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I think as the community grows, more search engines will start including us!

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[–] woelkchen 122 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Fuck Brave and fucks its owner Brendan Eich.

Don't promote that despicable company in any way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why what's up with them? Asking cuz I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Tl;dr Brave’s ceo (founder?) has donated to legislation to abolish gay marriage in California.

Brave adds referral links to cryptocurrency urls.

And it is apparently collecting money for YouTubers and not paying them (I did not fully read that article myself)

[–] cashews_best_nut 8 points 10 months ago

has donated to legislation to abolish gay marriage in California.

What an absolute fuck-head

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Read the links of the comment you are replying to.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

As a piece of software, nothing. It’s an open source browser, and has an added bonus of having many privacy settings on by default. Not even firefox can say the same, it comes with telemetry, pocket and whatnot out of the box.

But there are some fair criticisms about the company and its administration. For example, there was an incident years ago when you signed on a crypto exchange, it would swap the sign on link for their own referral link. They claimed this was an error and quickly patched it, but I don’t buy it.

You’ll quickly notice that a lot of people on lemmy passionately hate brave. So expect a strong bias and, as a result, truths but overblown, half truths and misinformation. Don’t ignore what they say but double check them.

[–] AVengefulAxolotl 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While I agree, but i tried Brave Search for a few weeks, and it seemed pretty good.

I wouldnt use Brave Browser, because Vivaldi is there (if you need Chromium.) But for a search engine which is free? DuckDuckGo maybe?

P.S. Kagi search is pretty good if you are willing to pay.

[–] Carighan 4 points 10 months ago

DDG is so bad in results though it makes not using a search engine seem like a solid alternative. I remember that research from a few months ago where they compared Google, Bing and DDG to do statistical analysis of if and how much Google's search results have been getting worse in recent years.

Result:

  • Google did get worse.
  • However, Bing and DDG got worser, faster.

The real conclusion was that SEO spam has found ways to optimize that is no longer easy to exclude for search providers. Hence all search is getting shit pretty quickly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

A lot of people are complaining about Kagi using Brave as a backend but the alternatives aren't much better. Both Google and Microsoft are BDS for example.

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[–] capital 67 points 10 months ago

This is exactly what comes to mind when some fedi people want to block all the search engines.

Good answers from real people are what drove everyone to start appending “Reddit” to the end of searches. The rest of the results are SEO trash.

I’d like to see a lot of that traffic move to lemmy and other fedi stuff and I think letting indexers do their thing is positive.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Odd that it's an obscure Basque instance though. Wonder why it shows that instead of something like world or ml.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

The search engine bots are absolutely powerhouse-obnoxious in how many requests they make, and there a ton of them, and Lemmy's not real optimized to cope with the load -- most big instances block all bot traffic simply as a matter of server survival as a result of that. So I would expect not to see any of them in search results any time in the near future.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Search engines currently struggle with the concept of federated posts. My guess is that instead of finding a post's home instance, they accept the first mirror of that post and discard copies from all other instances through deduplication.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

Kagi has a "Fediverse forums" lens now as well.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm seeing Lemmy posts on Google results as well.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

.eus is the top-level domain for the Basque language. The abbreviation eus comes from the Basque endonym euskara, meaning "Basque language".

TIL

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I made a crude lemmy scanner, but as I'm using the "http api" I'm a bit stuck at servers and instances. Almost 1800 servers and IIRC (I'm on my phone) some 40.000 communities. Yay!

I know the official api docs, but I don't know how to really use it, just send a json to some server? Would love to have an easy example and I'll go from there (family, work, art, and other gets in the way).

The goal would be to figure out how to make a search engine without storing the whole lemmyverse locally.

FOSS obviously.

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[–] maxwisecracks 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

why not use vivaldi if you have to use a chromium-based browser

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Why care which browser they use?

[–] MashedTech 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] cashews_best_nut 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it's fucking awesome. Here's why I used* to use it:

  • Built in email client
  • Built in RSS reader.
  • Themes and customisable UI (vertical tabs, bottom tags, tab previews, tab stacking)
  • Built in ad blocker
  • Sidebar with Mastodon, RSS, mail, translate, etc

*I use Floorp now cos I wanna support Mozilla/Firefox by upping the browser share numbers but Vivaldi is the best Chromium-based browser by far.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And people bash brave for being bloated.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's firefox (well, librewolf) + vivaldi is closed-source.

[–] cashews_best_nut 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

yeah of all the names to choose...

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