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“He ingested a drug, and we don’t know what was in it,” she told SF Gate, adding: “One thing we do know, it was a drug.”

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[–] lung 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hmmmmm I wonder if it's the same drug it literally always is: fentanyl almost exclusively made in China and laced into stuff

It's a shitty world, never do unknown powders or pills. Stick to pot and mushrooms, and other drugs that can't kill you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Mexican cartels have actually advanced to the point where they have their own drug production plants and just order the precursors from China. Crypto has been a boon to these orgs, they basically operate like multinational corporations now that they can easily send huge amounts of money across borders

[–] UltraMagnus0001 -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Interesting how mentioning "fentanyl made China" gets upvoted but "through Mexico" gets downvoted.

Both are factually correct (fentanyl is mostly produced in China, it does indeed enter the US through Mexico, India, and China), neither comments are relevant to the topic. Yet, one is heavily downvoted.

[–] Eldritch 7 points 10 months ago

One is an actual problem. The other is a scapegoat most often used by bigots.

As long as the demand for it is here. Even if you could 100% seal off the border with Mexico. The drug would still find its way in. So the border and Mexico really aren't the problem. Nor could you ever 100% seal off the border to anything.

Un-ironically the United States is as big a part of the problem as China. If we focused more on addressing the things that cause people to feel the need for drug fueled escapism from the toxic reality we've made. And providing them with safer, more supportive alternatives. It generally wouldn't matter what China does.

But as we've historically shown, we'd rather have a war on a concept. Especially as an excuse to hurt minorities. Than to actually help someone.

[–] workerONE 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I thought they were saying that about "pot and mushrooms and other drugs that can't kill you". Seems like a dig at Mexico by implying that drugs that were there are more unsafe.

But you're probably right, they mean fentanyl... They say "works its way" so it's probably a singular noun their referring to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Seems like I was wrong.

Fentanyl is no longer primarily produced in China, it is now also being produced in Mexico after crackdown in China: https://apnews.com/article/biden-xi-fentanyl-agreement-mexico-china-opioids-1fa57facd0dbdac714b616d705952d92

Pushed by then-President Donald Trump, China agreed in late 2018 to crack down on shipments of finished fentanyl and some of its precursors. After that, more production moved to Mexico — with the raw materials still coming largely from China.

I imagine that even if China stops producing precursors, cartels will find a different source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Interesting how mentioning “fentanyl made China” gets upvoted but “through Mexico” gets downvoted.

GP comment is more than "which comes from China", so upvotes aren't that easily compared