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[-] dipshit 3 points 3 months ago

Please. Think of the shareholders!

[-] Aceticon 6 points 3 months ago

As soon as the selection criteria for access to higher education is less than meritocratic, it undermines the maximization of Economic outcomes because it reduces the chances for the best people for a job to end up in that job (you get maximum Economic productvity if all over the Economy the best person for a job is the one doing the job).

So even by Rightwing principles of better life by more money making, paid-for Education actually detracts from from it because it leads to less money being made (as people who would otherwise be the most capable for certain highly specialized positions are locked from reaching them due to not being able to afford the right education for it).

What paid gor Education does achieve, and really well, is making sure children with high-middle class and upper class parents inherit their priviledges, no matter how inept they are.

It's basically Feudalism extended to cover the Burgeousie, which is why you see this kind of thing deeply entrenched in countries with barelly reformed monarchic systems such as the UK.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Then again, capitalism gave many societies a lot of wealth that they then used to educate everyone.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Debatable, really.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Development is what increases education abilities, not necessarily wealth or Capitalism. It's correct that a side-effect of Capitalism is development, but it's also true that a side-effect of Capitalism is increased wealth concentration and disparity, rather than equitable distribution of resources.

The fact that education increases in spite of Capitalism, rather than because of it, shouldn't be a point in Capitalism's favor.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Not everyone can be doctors or engineers or lawyers. We need operational personnel that work in retail, in construction, plumbers, electricians, etc. But this is not bad at all, we all need better work conditions. Since the beginning of humanity wealth has been inherited.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You can still gate these professions like we do today by selecting the bests based on grades (and remove that bullshit nepotism in the US universities). However, if you remove the financial barrier, people that come from poor backgrounds have a chance to try their luck on an education of their choosing and excel at it if they have the skills to do it.

Lots of people still like trade jobs for various reasons, and that will still be true if we remove the financial barrier.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Even then I feel it could be unfair, because not everyone could be great geniuses in their studies and works. Not everyone can be Messi or Bolt

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

No, but you make sure that the people that could become a genius in their field have access to the right education regardless of their economic status. It would solve a lot of poverty, because right now, it's a vicious circle.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

And what about the people that didn't born with that gift? those can GTFO?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

They can still choose a fullfilling career? Are you against removing the financial barrier for school because not everyone can a be a top candidate in their field?

I really don't know what you are mad about.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

There arent enough top tier positions. Someone should do the dirty work. Clean the shit from old asses, clean the sewers, retail, etc...

[-] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

there are lots of capitalst countries in europe where education is pretty much free. what you are talking about is neo-liberalism

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, in South America too, as long as you pass entrance exams which are difficult af.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Nah, it's Capitalism as well. Capitalism depends on the global orphan crushing machine, not just insular countries. There are many, many Einstein level talents that have died without access to necessary education to fully take advantage of their talents simply to keep the orphan crushing machine going.

[-] suction 2 points 3 months ago
[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

It's ironic that capitalism is missing out on more efficient workers who could maximize production and profit because of this. Who knows where we would be if we actually helped people pursue their goals regardless of current income?

[-] CaptainProton 1 points 3 months ago

Is it capitalism, or is it the way non-profits budget in order to stay non-profiting when there's some windfall revenue? Seriously stupid if anyone doesn't know: schools will burn money and hire excess staff JUST to keep from having a profit at the end of the year - and then the next year they need to either hit the same numbers or get rid of people and programs. Tuition can only go to the moon as long as every penny of unspent money must be both spent this year and replaced again next year.

[-] Smoogs 4 points 3 months ago

More than this. People from different countries with qualifications are often denied to transfer their qualifications. We are missing out in more than one area here.

[-] RememberTheApollo_ 9 points 3 months ago

They don’t want experts, they want drones and demagogues.

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