I wish I could see what the original request was.
this post was submitted on 02 Feb 2024
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"I demand the government I don't recognize give me money."
This is the crazy part to me. It’s not completely unreasonable to want to live on your own terms, but to demand that and then beg the U.S Treasury Department for free shit just seems antithetical to their whole schtick.
I guarantee in their mind they've created a rationalization devoid of logic
Some SovCits believe that your birth certificate is actually some sort of bond the government takes out on you and is worth insane amounts of money and if they know the magic words they can cash in their bond and get hundreds of billions of dollars that the government is keeping in their name
I just searched it and the first hit is the Treasury Department debunking it and other scams
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/laws-and-regulations/fraud/birth-certificate-bonds/
Yes, but the SovCits know the Real Truth, the government is just lying to you, but you can force them to do what you want when you know the proper magic words.
My favourite thing from SovCits is everytime they start describing a magical world in which they can live truly free one of them brings up that they should create some sort of "central authority" to "enforce their freedoms" but also make sure "everyone contributes their share"
That's the thing, they're not actually seeking to live on their own terms. They're not radical libertarians.
They believe the US government was replaced by a corporation by Lincoln, and birth certificates are actually representative of stock in said corporation backed by the US Treasury that's traded on the stock market, and that if you just know to ask you can cash out your secret corporate account, which is what your name in all uppercase letters, as found on your birth certificate, represents.
Every interaction with the false government is actually mediated by Byzantine rules, but you can always opt out, since they're a corporation and have to play by the rules.
In their minds, they're not seeking to live free, they're checking "do not agree" on the TOS to driving a car, which means they don't have to follow the rules because they didn't sign the contract.
Same as telling Comcast you didn't want phone service, but you'll accept one month free internet, they don't feel interested in signing the "speeding ticket" contract, but they would be happy to cash out their secret bank account.
Say what you want about the viability of extreme libertarianism, "I don't want the government telling me what to do" is a coherent stance.
Sovereign citizens are just unhinged, usually because of life stresses and a helping hand from someone who wanted to make a quick buck. They still dangerous, despite often being victims themselves, however.
You forgot the magic words.
She said she had filed two acquisition of property forms called a 1099A with a realtor and got this letter, which is a piece of sovcit magical thinking where a 1099a somehow magically pays for things from the trust the government took out in your name worth 2 million dollars when you were born. The secret trust is one of their wilder ideas.
Sovereign citizens will see this and think the treasury is playing hard to get. 😂 Clearly he didn't put it in enough random bill numbers in to prove his point.
Dumb ass.