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Soviet soldier securing the wreckage of a Polish plane shot down by Soviet forces during the Soviet and Nazi invasion of Poland, WW2, 1939 (media.kbin.social)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/historyporn
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[–] NOT_RICK 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

*The joint Soviet-Nazi invasion of Poland

I have a compulsion to remind people that the Soviets weren’t the good guys in WWII that they loved to pretend to be.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

so this happened.

Don’t whitewash history.

Nazi Germany and the USSR made plans to invade and partition Poland, and then they followed through on those plans.

Stalin and Hitler were allies right up until Hitler backstabbed Stalin with Operation Barbarossa.

Edit: the title has been updated since I posted this

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I certainly wasn't trying to whitewash history. Rather the contrary, since Soviet forces engaging Polish forces during the Nazi invasion is rarely discussed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you’re interested in accurately portraying historical events, I’d change the last part of the title to:

during the coordinated invasion of Poland by the USSR and Nazi Germany, 1939

Because it was most definitely coordinated at a strategic level.

[–] Warl0k3 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The Soviet and Nazi invasion

Idk, that seems pretty clear that the soviets and nazis were working jointly. I don't think the title would be improved by adding extremely specific language that changes the meaning very little.

[–] Maalus 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It sounds like they invaded at the same time, not together, and a "joint invasion" clarification in the title would be great.

[–] Warl0k3 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was going to find an example of a country being invaded by two major powers that weren't working together and yeah, there's not very many, but its a churlish point to make that misses the actual argument. I do see your point. Calling it 'whitewashing' is a bit of a stretch, but I can see how it underemphasizes the degree to which the nazis / soviets were coordinating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The title has been updated since I posted the comment you’re replying to

[–] Warl0k3 2 points 11 months ago

Lmao oh, thank you. I forget Lemmy doesn't indicate edits particularly well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is a bad ass cool looking photo.