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'Stop Humanitarian Aid with Your Bodies' - Israelis Prevent Trucks from Entering Gaza (www.palestinechronicle.com)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Families of Israeli captives obstructed on Thursday the entry of humanitarian aid to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip for the second day in a row, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported.

According to Haaretz, the families, along with right-wing activists, blocked the passage of aid trucks to Gaza through the Kerem Shalom (Karem Abu Salem) crossing.

Protesters reportedly closed the road to the crossing and prevented trucks loaded with humanitarian aid from passing.

“We are here today to show (Israeli) Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that he can stop the trucks, just as we are stopping them now,” Dany Elgart, a brother of one of the captives, reportedly said, adding:

“I call on all citizens: come to the checkpoint and stop this humanitarian aid with your bodies. It is not humanitarian at all because it only serves one segment of the population there. The hostages there do not receive any humanitarian aid.”

The aid comes from abroad and is transported through Israel, which announced the closure of crossings to the Gaza Strip on October 7, according to Anadolu news agency.

On October 9, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant announced a “complete siege” of the Gaza Strip. “We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly,” Gallant said.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This whole thing is so fucked up. I understand why those families are upset, but preventing other innocent people from getting medical help is just revenge for an act of revenge for an act of revenge for… oh.

[–] Hildegarde 24 points 11 months ago

Propoganda works

[–] Doorbook 22 points 11 months ago

They are okay that the IDF killed 3 captives waving flag, another in a tunnels, a few in bombing in gaza, and many other in cars going back to gaza with their captive, along with a few more cliamed to have been used as human shields.

But aid going to Gaza cannot happen.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's inhumane, but not sure I'm allowed to say that, I'll be accused of you know what.

[+] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No man, don't both sides this. There is a clear and unequivocal genocide taking place as we speak, and those who are going to sit on the fence really need to look into their souls.

I get it if you don't give a fuck. I get it if you want to wipe the rag heads from the face of the earth, but I will never understand the "both side-rs"

[+] [email protected] -14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t justify violence against innocent people.

[–] MotoAsh 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There are more than two sides, and a lot of innocents dying. Mostly at Israel's hands.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One can say all are dying due to Israel as their policy of settler-colonialism and apartheid have fueled the violence. History didn't start on Oct. 7th you know.

[–] MotoAsh -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even so, the answer to two children fighting on the playground is DISTINCTLY NOT to rush in, fail to stop the fight, and start asking, "okok who threw the first punch?! We're selling the other guy a gun."

This whole situation is beyond pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Thats the US and the West, many in the global south actually aren't heavily invested in the elimination of Israel. China has called for a ceasefire and an establishment of a Palestinian state. South Africa has already filed a lawsuit against Israel with many countries following suit.

It is only the western liberal democracies that facilitate the violence and bloodshed. Not to mention propelling islamophobia and antisemitism (Israel is inherently antisemitic). It is only the western countries that are unable to act maturely.

This is not two children fighting you liberal pig. It is a simple history of settler colonialism of one party against the other. Israel is a crime against hummanity since even before its illegal creation by Europe.

Framing it as a petty fight is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's not forget who started all this. I don't think Hamas will be eager to parade dead women on their cars anytime soon again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Uh... Israel in 1967? Israel in 1949? Zionists in 1917? Israel in 2005? Take your pick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

There are three sides to this conflict, not 2.

[+] SloppyPuppy -18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dont think its for revenge. The idea is to hold off all aid to pressure hammas to release the hostages. They will never release them as long as aid and food and medicine is going in.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Calling Palestinian civilians animals and refusing to allow them food and medical supplies isn't going to improve the situation. What do you think is going to happen? Is Hamas going to say "oh guys, I think we made them mad this time. Better release the hostages so they don't do anything violent!"?

[+] SloppyPuppy -9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“Calling Palestinian civilians animals” so basically you are just inventing stuff I never said.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was referencing Israel's official comment on the matter from the article. This is what you're defending by supporting Israel in this situation:

On October 9, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant announced a “complete siege” of the Gaza Strip. “We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly,” Gallant said.

With 25,000+ lives taken by Israel, many of them women and children civilians, you can't make the argument he's not talking about treating civilians like animals.

[+] SloppyPuppy -13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

The thought process is that hammas is the governing body of Gaza and is responsible for its civilians. It would be in his best interest and its civilians to just return the hostages. Otherwise how would you put pressure on hammas to give back the hostages?

What should be done in your opinion for hammas to return the hostages safely and alive?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas offered the release of the prisoners in exchange for permanent ceasefire ages ago. Israel refused because it would rather genocide Palestinians than get its prisoners back.

This is not to mention that what you are describing is a crime against humanity and an act of genocide.

[–] kaffiene 8 points 11 months ago

You know that collective punishment is a war crime, right?

[–] snek 1 points 11 months ago

It's actually the occupying force that is responsible for the wellbeing of those it colonized.

[–] Motavader 77 points 11 months ago (2 children)

'"It is not humanitarian at all because it only serves one segment of the population there. The hostages there do not receive any humanitarian aid.”

They mean the civilians in Gaza held hostage by the Israeli military, right?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Plus by all accounts the hostages are fed and recieve medical care etc. By blocking aid they are starving their own relatives.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Full fascist shit you would expect Nazis to do to their own. Israel is incapable of peace and the only solution is to resist and retaliate against it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

They couldn’t possibly fathom that their relatives are being treated about as well as one could hope in this kind of situation, because Israel regularly tortures, beats, and starves Palestinian hostages.

[–] snek 7 points 11 months ago

Not by all accounts, I think, but mostly yes.

[–] snek 5 points 11 months ago

Worse of all, since these hostages are a bargaining chip, they would likely use military rations to keep them alive anyway, so basically these people are trying to prevent aid from reaching tens of thousands of pregnant women now having shitty pregnancy complications and dying alongside their children, or watching their new born die before them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No they obviously mean the Israeli hostages held by Palestinians.

[–] Nastybutler 1 points 11 months ago

Whoosh

[–] iuselinux 23 points 11 months ago

Some bunch of people stopping some other bunch of people from living.

[–] Linkerbaan 23 points 11 months ago

Brave israeli's going into Gaza and fighting Hamas themselves.

Oh wait they're blocking women and children from receiving food. True heroes of israeli society.

[–] snek 16 points 11 months ago

Look at what blind hatred and bigotry make a motherfucker do.

[–] m13 7 points 11 months ago

Israelis are fucking monsters.