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[–] TrueStoryBob 20 points 10 months ago

Switched to Vivaldi last year and haven't looked back. Did some side by side with FireFox for a month or two on my phone. I have a cheap 2022 Moto G something or other, running whatever Android it shipped with.

I guess that like a lot of people, I don't like having apps tracking stuff, but my work requires me to have access to Facebook, Insta, Threads, and the like... so, I just use browser shortcut widgets for them instead (I should quit my job, I know, I know... working on it). Both Firefox and Vivaldi immediately figured out that I wanted to run them in containers so that was great. However, Vivaldi runs all of them so smooth where as Firefox just kind of stumbles around. Some of them would refuse to work some days, just bringing up the web browser container and then crash. Facebook dot com was the worst... there were issues with the UI not showing me the text input bubbles and latency with button presses was terrible... like needing a refresh to show a "like" or even that a notification was read. It was almost unusable. Bizarrely, Outlook was also bad on FireFox... like that's a fairly bog standard email client and "productivity" site, but on FireFox it would crash more than it worked. Vivaldi handles all of the sites/platforms I need like I'm running the apps.

Maybe it's something with my cheap ass phone and Motorola's bloatware, but Firefox crashed and burned more than it worked. I cannot recommend Vivaldi enough.

[–] BoxOfFeet 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey, anybody know the best browser for Windows Mobile 6.5?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In other news: stop using Netscape

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[–] Yoz 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] PriorityMotif 20 points 10 months ago

Chinese spyware, has been for years now.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (7 children)
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[–] RandomPancake 13 points 10 months ago

I remember way back in the late 90s or early 2000s, when Opera was commercial, I bought a lifetime license. I don't remember the specifics but it was basically a way to support them and it was good for all future versions, forever and ever.

I lost the key long ago and the browser is free now anyway. Still wouldn't use it.

[–] Lutra 11 points 10 months ago

late to the party, but I had OperaGX do a clever evil thing recently - I have an old machine running MacOS 10.14 (for reasons), I had GX up, and I alt-tab'd and noticed there was the "don't symbol" (ghostbusters) over the OperaGX Icon. I thought, "that can't be right". I'm running GX right now. I double checked, and I was using GX with several windows open. But the symbol was right - they had Updated OperaGX that I WAS running, WHILE I was running it, to a version that WOULDN'T work on the computer I was on. I eventually restarted GX, and got a 'You can't use OperaGX with this version of MacOS". Jerks.

I dug around, and very roughly, the .app file is not the App. They use a folder off in Library to store the actual pieces of the app, and it there is a few different pieces, and the .app file points to the actual executables.

Anyway it was fun while it lasted. Never again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

God damn it. I just switched to Opera because of the "Hey get off Chrome" posts like 2 weeks ago.

I have Firefox installed but don't love it. Need a "and the next closest good mobile browser is X"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

What is Firefox lacking for you to love it?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Somebody here is going to have a reason: why shouldn’t I use Safari?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

While inferior to Firefox due to reason outlined by another user, it is infinitely better than going with Chromium-based browsers.

Keep on using it if you feel comfortable with it

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[–] kuneho 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the last time when I used Opera browser was on my Sony Ericsson W580i and C702i

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[–] kamen 10 points 10 months ago

I started using Opera at version 9 point something and was a happy camper for a long time. It was a great browser, but its biggest problem was compatibility - more and more sites were behaving strangely and more and more the Opera folks had to patch things on the browser side. I stopped using it around the time the first alpha version of Vivaldi came out. Yes, Vivaldi had a lot of catching up to do at the beginning, but it was functional enough for a daily driver. Opera's first Blink-based version was some kind of a joke - it didn't even have a proper bookmarking system - it was as if everyone was assumed to have 15-20 bookmarks on their start page and that's it. Anyway, they lost all my trust when they sold out later on.

I'm willing to give Firefox a chance regarding the whole manifest v3 drama, although I see the Vivaldi folks opposing it (not sure how much they'll be able to do once they have to merge the MV3 stuff). My biggest hurdle with Firefox right now is the lack of native mouse gestures. Yes, it's somewhat possible to do it with extensions, but the 1% of the pages it doesn't work on (I know, I know, intentional limitation for all extensions) is enough to break my flow; gestures are so ingrained into my muscle memory at this point that I don't see myself using a browser without them supported the way they are in Vivaldi.

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