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A great video about the Manifest v3 and how Google is trying to make you view ads.

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Everyone losing their minds over this like Firefox doesn't exist.

Stop using Chrome.

The reason this is even a big problem is because everyone piled on Google's browser despite all the obvious reasons that wasn't gonna be a good idea on the long term.

I never understood why anybody thought a company – whose principal business is advertising and data mining – wouldn't eventually rug pull everyone like this with their browser as soon as it hit critical mass for market share.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because there weren't any great options at the time. Firefox has gotten better, but at that time Chrome was just super fast and lightweight in comparison to all the competitors.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

enshitification 101

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 11 months ago (10 children)

get firefox and ublock origin.

its so fucking simple, why do people have such weird attachment to chrome??

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Agreed on using Firefox/LibreWolf and uBlock Origin, I love that combination. I think the thing is that Google Chrome is much faster than Firefox on Android phones (I don't mind, I hardly ever use mobile to browse), and long time habits can be hard to break for some people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yup, can say that firefox is quite a bit slower on android (but honestly it's still quite ok, unless it decides to loop loading the page, or it bugs out in another way, at least on my phone it's quite prone to breaking, for comparison brave is really a bit faster than Firefox

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Way faster when you consider time spent loading and navigating around all the fucking ads. The mobile web without adblock is a dumpster fire of the highest order.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, it IS slower on android, but adblocking more than makes up for it IMO.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Not so much chrome, but many browsers (like my favorite Vivaldi) are chromium based. I wish they'd just keep uBlock going in the chromium rebuilds, but IDK if that's possible. Seems like it should be to me though.

Also, we switched at work from Firefox because somehow they broke system level updates a few years ago, and nothing I could do was able to figure out why their installer stopped working without first having someone run the uninstall graphically to update to the new version. It would just say Firefox wasn't a valid windows exe till I manually removed it. And even the Mozilla Enterprise list seemed flummoxed. Honestly, I think they should have reverted the installer change, or even just use a standard installer that doesn't have this problem, but hey.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I wish firefox would just add tab-groups back like chrome has or literally any chrome based browser... Ive tried literally every tab extension in the store and w/e I could find on Github but they all aren't to my liking. They basically all use a side bar. I just want to slide my 100 tabs of manga and obscure programming blogs out of sight lol other than that, firefox is pretty much better in most ways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Windows group tabs. Just open a new window for each task of tabs.

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[–] squid_slime 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And google will kill its self

[–] LufyCZ 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, they know what they're doing.

[–] squid_slime 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wishful thinking on my part tbh, I forget that there is an ecosystem with gmail :/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah and it's kinda hard to get off from that. I'm in the process of switching my 2 gmail accounts to 2 proton ones and it seems that the ProtonMail app's free plan doesn't support multiple emails. Understandable but sad.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm interested but I'm not watching 30 minutes of video...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The person in the video talks so slowly I can listen to it at 1.5x speed. I feel like a jerk because it's clearly not their first language and I can only imagine how difficult that can be but at 1x speed it's a seriously slow video.

To my understanding this is a more in-depth breakdown of how and why browser extensions will not be able to intercept the webpage before the browser displays it and instead it will be executed via scripts on the browser itself. Google claims this is to speed up the process, improve security, and reduce computational power and it does seem to do that but at the expense of the freedom of the browser extensions to alter the web pages being displayed.

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[–] RIP_Cheems 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good think I don't use chrome.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only losers use Google Chrome.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No problems with the inbuild adblocker in Vivaldi, not even in YouTube (without any ads for me), problems only for Chromiums in which are remaining control and tracking APIs from Google and which are only can use "descaffeinated" Adblockers from the Chrome Store. I can use even direct userscripts in Vivaldi if needed, without the need of Tamper-, Greasy- or Violentmonkey extensions. Vivaldi is a Chromium browser, but Google for the past 9 years has hit its teeth on a rock in attempts to control it.

[–] cashews_best_nut 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I was a Vivaldi user, like you, until I used Floorp and now I'm a crack addict.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Floorp is a nice Browser. Apart of Vivaldi, I use also the Mullvad Browser and the SSuite Netsurf for some tasks, before I also had the Midory Browser (almost identical to Floorp) and almost all others which are exist or existed in the past. But Vivaldi remain my main browser since 8 years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I doubt it. Normies love chrome, and the majority of normies don't even know about ad blockers. Chrome will continue unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Anyone remembers when Chrome was the hot new kid on the block and we all converted the "normies" to it because it was so much better than IE? We're reaping what we sowed.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought they cancelled manifest v3 after the backlash?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

They never do. They wait for the backlash to be over, change a few things and try it again.

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