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Quebec City Mayor Bruno Marchand has suggested that the solution to the crisis may be a Finnish model, which is a 'housing first' approach that aims to give everyone a home.

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[–] hperrin 99 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Never have I seen so many people with so many unworkable solutions to a problem take so long to come to the most obvious solution. Just give people homes. Don’t let people die on the street, it’s inhumane.

[–] SinningStromgald 52 points 11 months ago

Yeah but... capitalism?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am reading a book on supporting universal basic income, and it provided all examples of the times when the homeless were provided unconditional income and a home. Every cities in the world that did this have been successful in eliminating homelessness.

This is not a Finnish model, it's common sense.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's the name of the book?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

"Utopia for Realists"

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

has suggested that the solution to the crisis may be a Finnish model, which is a 'housing first' approach that aims to give everyone a home.

Fixing homelessness by giving people a home! I'm not sure that's going to work.....facepalm

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But this is just common sense?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't necessarily disagree, but why isn't it widely adopted then?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If we guarantee enough housing for everyone, it stops being as valuable as a speculative asset. Which is bad for landlords (including the ones that work in legislation)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also economists (who are usually wealthy enough to be able to landlord if they want to do so)... which means they're financially incentivised to hold right wing economic views like "rent control doesn't work, 9/10 economists recommend against it!" like it's a toothpaste advert and economists who challenge that don't get much spotlight in the mainstream.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rent control doesn't work, the economists are correct (Who woulda thunk it, but studying the way prices are determined is a valid field of academic study). Or rather it does work for some people but makes life harder for others, and isn't nearly as good of an approach as people think.

That's not what we were talking about here. We were talking about building enough housing to be able to guarantee it for everyone. That's not rent control, that's just investing in our housing supply.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That’s not what we were talking about here. We were talking about building enough housing to be able to guarantee it for everyone. That’s not rent control, that’s just investing in our housing supply.

The topic of this conversation follows from your statement:

Which is bad for landlords (including the ones that work in legislation)

i.e. landowners and people in power hold sway over the decision making process and are keeping us away from legislation that houses people. Unless I misread you. That's why I brought up another example.

Rent control doesn’t work, the economists are correct (Who woulda thunk it, but studying the way prices are determined is a valid field of academic study). Or rather it does work for some people but makes life harder for others, and isn’t nearly as good of an approach as people think.

You clearly did not read the link, the person who wrote it is a PhD economist. Also, using one solution as a way to fix housing is naive, when we could (and should be, it's horribly unaffordable for average people in urban areas, where most people in western countries live, already) be using many, including rent control.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Greed. And people just unwilling to change from what they have been grown accustomed to.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

It really should be catching the eye of all cities / countries with large homeless issues.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The same people who say give them homes don't want to pay for it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The program has actually SAVED money, so this should be enough incentive for taxpayers to want to support it.