this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2023

31 points (100.0% liked)

Movies

7514 readers

296 users here now

Welcome to Movies, a community for discussing movies, film news, box office, and more! We want this to be a place for members to feel safe to discuss and share everything they love about movies and movie related things. Please feel free to take part and help our community grow!

Related Communities:

[email protected] - Discussing books and book-related things.

[email protected] - A place to discuss comic books of all types.

[email protected] - LW's home for all things MCU.

While posting and commenting in this community, you must abide by the Lemmy.World Terms of Service: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.
Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.
Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed
Shitposts and memes are allowed until they prove to be a problem.

Regarding spoilers; Please put "(Spoilers)" in the title of your post if you anticipate spoilers, as we do not currently have a spoiler tag available. If your post contains an image that could be considered a spoiler, please mark the thread as NSFW so the image gets blurred. As far as how long to wait until the post is no longer a spoiler, please just use your best judgement. Everyone has a different idea on this, so we don't want to make any hard limits.

Please use spoiler tags whenever commenting a spoiler in a non-spoiler thread. Most of the Lemmy clients don't support this but we want to get into the habit as clients will be supporting in the future.

Failure to follow these guidelines will result in your post/comment being removed and/or more severe actions. All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. We ask that the users report any comment or post that violates the rules, and to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting.

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

Tenthrow

JonsJava

Disney’s Harsh New Reality: Costly Film Flops, Creative Struggles and a Shrinking Global Box Office (variety.com)

submitted 1 year ago by echoplex21 to c/movies

14 comments fedilink hide all child comments

all 15 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] rodneyck 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This isn't just a Disney issue, it is happening across the board (The Flash.) A report was released in March stating that the attendance was 35% down from pre-pandemic levels and falling. The studios don't want to face the issue, or highlight it in the media, that people aren't going to the theaters, at least enough to make it profitable for both studios and theaters.

Tom Cruise is out there now (recent media blitz) to try and get butts in seats. Good luck. I think Covid opened the door, much like working at home did for workers, to watching movies via streaming.....at home.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@rodneyck @echoplex21 It's a serious problem, and the studios aren't doing themselves any favors by thinking that it's superhero movies that are keeping the audiences out of the theaters:

https://fanfare.pub/its-the-end-of-movie-theaters-as-we-know-it-and-i-feel-fine-a57302aa3f94

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Indiana Jones cost almost $300 million?! Where did they spend all that money?

[–] ThunderTenTronckh 1 points 1 year ago

Tbf the CGI Harrison Ford is crazy impressive

But yeah most of that budget got sunk into tooooo many action sequences. Dragged like crazy. I bet you could cut like 30 minutes of action footage and end up with a better paced movie.

[–] MrDetermination 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kathleen Kennedy had an incredibly respectable career but clearly needs to go. She worked better with Spielberg and Lucas.

Alan Horn should have stepped down 5 years earlier. Bergman is not off to a great start. He needs some big wins in the next couple of years or he needs to go too.

Even Feige is fading.

They desperately need some fresh innovative thinking at the top.

Feige probably wants Bergman's job but I'd move him over to Kennedy's job for 5 years and make him prove himself over there first. That'd give him a fresh challenge. Lucasfilm and he both need the reboot.

[–] echoplex21 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For Marvel, Disney had James Gunn but they botched it with the termination which lead him to DC. He was the perfect person to build up the next phase of the MCU and GOTG3 is by far the best movie released since Endgame (as much as I enjoyed No Way Home).

I think they were hoping for Taika to be the next one up but Love & Thunder may have put a damper on things.

[–] MrDetermination 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hard to know whether L&T was Taika's flub or the studio's. Either way, you're right, it's bad for his prospects.

Then again, I'm not sure I see him as having the needed business acumen/savvy. Seems like Favreau and Johnson are maybe better equipped leaders in that way. Whedon would have worked too, if he hadn't have tuned out to be such a turd.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@MrDetermination @echoplex21 Sometimes I think Taiki was born in the wrong era. Movie studios used to be more supportive of iconoclastic filmmakers than there are now. Then again, when the budgets for movies keep escalating, corporate bean counters like Zaslav get nervous.

[–] Sans_outside 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think everyone is tired of the rehashing of move characters. I would rather see something completely new than just another remake or reboot of a movie or TV show I seen tons of times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This times a million. Disney isn't putting out anything interesting. They play it too safe

[–] ikidd -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have nothing new, and have tortured the old standby's to death. My god, that Indy movie is just a fucking mess. Kennedy keeps shooting these properties in the fucking head with her politics. Nobody wants to listen to the preaching anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@ikidd @echoplex21 The politics aren't the problem. Across the Spider-Verse is "woke" as hell and its on the fast track to be the most successful movie ever made. What happened to Indiana Jones is the same thing that happened to the James Bond franchise. What was innovative back then is the same old same old now. Bond got left behind by contemporary spys like Jason Bourne, Ethan Hunt and The Gentlemen. Indy got left behind by action thrillers like The Fast and The Furious and John Wick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

What does politics have to do with it? Wth?

It’s just shitty filmmaking.