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I'm asking for private notes, that only you as a user can see.

Just to exemplify, a similar feature is over at mastodon, where you click on profile and you see an "add note" message, another implementation is over at discord.

It is a really useful feature when needing to remember certain users, like when you are looking at why you blocked someone or for when you interact with certain recurring users.

Is there an extension or feature for this, if not, has it been requested on GitHub, or am I restricted to having to keep a manual list myself?

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[–] twelvefloatinghands 5 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a good idea. I think the place to request/discuss with devs is the github issues

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nothing on these systems is really private unless it has an E2EE option just FYI.

Would be best to have some kind of browser plugin id think.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know why wouldn't they be private, in mastodon only you can see the notes. It could be made so that they are stored locally or by instances but encrypted

But I agree a plugin would be ideal, but as I have 0 programming knowledge I'm asking in case one exists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

admins can access the data, the data is only encrypted between your computer and the instance server. the system is not necessarily designed with keeping your content secure more than just your account. this is the case on most social systems however, DMs are not truly private, nor are private rooms, the only time you can have some level of assurance of actual private communications is with end to end encryption

matrix, another fediverse network has you covered for if/when you really care about that.

[–] ludw 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it depends on what client you use. I haven't seen it in any Lemmy app but you can find Lemmy users with a Mastodon client and add a note, so I guess it's up to the various clients to implement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait you could log in to a lemmy instance from a mastodon client? Or did you talke that picture from a Mastodon account?

Having said that this is the closest thing I've seen to what I want, only problem being that I would need to use a Mastodon UI which doesnt have downvotes.

Also unrelated, but this is the first time I encounter an image on the comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can follow Lemmy users or communities from Mastodon (and a lot of Fediverse services) but you aren't logging into your Lemmy account from there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can if you code it. It's a simple user script that associates a note with a name and puts it in browser storage and then appends it to their name. I was making it but I stopped because I had work to do and had no time to play with browser add-ons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Problem is I haven't coded a single thing in my life, while I could technically made something I much prefer using something already made by someone who knows what he is doing

I will try to seaech what you say to see if I can do something quickly, but I will probably surrender if it's not just replicating an online tutorial.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can code it easily in a few hours but I'm working my ass off right now to get some company stuff done. If you can spare a few dozen bucks I can save a few hours this week for it. You can also try and make it yourself. I've made similar plugins and posted them on [email protected]. (i am @God there). If you check out my code and that of others, I'm sure you'll have a lot of reference for it.

If no one else has made it, I already started the add-on but I've been too busy to finish it. If no one else does, I will probably build it for myself and publish it there in a few weeks when my work gives me some time for hobby coding.

edit: if you do take a look

this is very simple, here, check out the mutation observer, the username grabber, the function that appends a tag to the username, it's already there

https://sh.itjust.works/post/89693

and to do the custom tags, you'll need to check out how to use localStorage: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/localStorage

that's about it, you can trigger opening the tag modification with a simple window prompt https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/prompt

and you'd append a button that opens the prompt when you tap on a username's tag or icon that indicates that there's none. the button would open the prompt through an event listener: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/EventTarget/addEventListener

modifying colors is the simplest part with inline css: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/inline-style-in-html/, it can also be stored in the localStorage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On desktop, when you hover over someone's user name, after a couple of seconds a pop-up will appear, which has a field for adding a note. I'm assuming that's private, to mirror how that works elsewhere, but I'm not 100% sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This wasn't working, but then I realized you come from Kbin, I logged into Kbin and turns up you guys have this feature! It's not on lemmy yet.

Kbin looks so appealing, but there isn't an android app at the moment (right?) and I'm kind of growing attached to lemmy, but I probably will try to use Kbin more once I get an app for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah! My bad.

It's confusing as the post appears here to be coming from kbin.social, but now I see it's actually posted in a community on lemmy.world.

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you mean private messages? Yes, Lemmy has them similar to Reddit. They are private in the sense that they are not public, but the server admins can see them if they need/want to. On reddit if I wanted to discuss something private with someone I would usually PM them to exchange email addresses, then take it to email. Email isn't perfectly private either, but I figured at least it would keep away from Spez and company. Beyond that, use encryption, make a phone call, meet in person, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, sorry. I'm not talking about private message (dm's if you will) but instead about notes.

Notes is a little thing you write under someone's profile so that you, privately, xan remember said person.

Tongive you an example, let's say we interacted in a post about international politics and you mentioned you are from Zimbabwe. I could add a note to your profile saying something like "from Zimbabwe", you could not see this note as it would be for myself to cechk if I ever interact with you again.

Many other social media has this features, in discord I use it to check when people change usernames, in mastodon just to remember people, heck even in league og legends ypu can add notes to profiles in game which I use to remember friends of friends when I play with one.

[–] solrize 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh interesting, I have never seen that. I do sometimes keep offline notes about discussions I've had, like when someone says something interesting about a programming topic. The notes are usually not directly about the person, but of course they could be. Anyway that type of thing belongs on the client side, imho. Lemmy already does too much on the server side.

[–] qeqpep 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mastodon implements it server-side. It's just a convenience feature. Like bookmarks, draft posts. Why the hassle?

[–] solrize 1 points 1 year ago

Among other things, that kind of info is private enough that the server should not store it or even see it. You chose an innocuous example "Poster X is from Belarus" but it might have easily been a private thought that you don't want seen by others. You have to assume anything on the server will eventually escape. So, that info should only exist client side.

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