I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ?
I have switched instances a lot. I don't like the idea of other people curating my feed.
this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2023
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I made my own instance for this reason.
I have considered it.
Is it expensive? Considering doing it myself
I had a spare computer that I installed Linux on a while back, but wasn't using it for much at the time. If set up like that, all you would pay for is the electricity, which is very low if you're only running Lemmy, probably only a couple of US dollars a month. You could probably run it on a raspberry pi, tbh.
Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it's free for me.
Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it's free for me.
The dream. I want to do this too when I buy my house, but living in northern Scandinavia makes it hard to run off solar during the winter.
I live relatively close to the equator (Texas), so it's actually better for me in the winter because I don't need to run the AC.
Texas?! Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy, and you don't look much like a steer to me, so that kinda narrows it down!
Because the panels absorb/reflect the light? Or how does that work?
Not sure what you mean, but I just meant that because I use about a quarter of the electricity in the winter while still generating about 90% as much electricity, I end up selling a ton of electricity back to the grid, building up credits that I can use for cloudy days in the spring.
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I don't think the world admins really care if users transfer away. That's just federation in action. Good stuff.
World admin playing 4d chess by showing the benefit of account migration in activitypub.
My original concern about "losing people" wasn't about transferring away, but rather about leaving the fediverse entirely over the concern of having to remake an account and having to curate up to my standards all over again. Which is now a moot point since I've been given solutions to migrate easily.
Oh gotcha. I'd suppose that if a person is that concerned with Threads, they're probably invested in the idea of Lemmy such that transferring to another instance is not out of the question. Someone who's not interested in putting in the effort to transfer probably doesn't feel strongly either way about Threads. That's just an assumption on my part, of course.
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The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven't tested it though.
Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won't work well on their end. This presumes that they'll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn't care ... just that there's probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads's implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.
Thanks for the infos
I will see how it actually turns out, and yeah I didn't expect an instant "everything turn to crap" moment, but good to know that there's an option to easily migrate if need be. Although just the idea of them having any kind of access via federation really bothers me and I somewhat doubt they won't try something to "absorb" as much people as they can into Threads, that something having many possibilities in how it could manifest.
I’m with you.
If you haven’t seen it, here’s a great write up about federating with threads that does a really good job of outlining why there’s more to this than “but I have friends and relatives on instagram” and “isn’t it good for the fediverse to be popular?” arguments: https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads
My little tldr + hot take on the article here: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/111627736340220610
It’s by @[email protected] on mastodon if you’re on there. I find myself enjoying and agreeing with just about everything they say about the fediverse and social media.
Yikes
Meta’s lead for Threads, Adam Mosseri, was head of Facebook’s News Feed and Interfaces departments during that long, warning-heavy lead-up to the genocide of the Rohingya in Myanmar. After the worst of the violence was over, Mosseri noted on a podcast that he’d lost some sleep over it.
Yep. I didn’t know that part.
And somewhat symbolically, his account is the first you can follow from mastodon. You can file him and get his posts in your feed right now. I’m on an instance that hasn’t blocked threads and I’m following him now. Creepy TBH.
Thanks for the shares, very interesting, it's much worse than I thought it turns out ahah
I'm not on masto, lemmy is enough to browse for me on a daily basis but I might check out a few things there
Now, even though it might not change much to the future of the fediverse with meta meddling, I'm definitely migrating !
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It’s possible in the latest version of Lemmy. World hasn’t upgraded yet. They are also already federated with threads.
And as OP seems to be predicting, the world has clearly ended. 😅
(not that I don't have plenty issues with Meta, but the way lemmings talk about it only serves to further corporate agenda by essentially making all criticism seem idiotic by association)
To each their own reasons to care or not about being federated with Threads, it's not what this post is about.
My line about how toxic it's gonna be is my opinion and admittedly might not have its place here in the context, but I'm only a human making a post, wondering if I'm alone or if I'm missing an option for an easy migration.
I don't know of an "easy" option for migration.
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Threads federation really is a tempest in a teacup. People getting worked up over nothing.
Meta's failed twitter clone probably won't even federate with the threadiverse. Just look at this post. I see lemmy, I see kbin, I see lotide, I don't see mastodon, pleroma, friendica, and so on and so forth at all. I don't see minds (did you know that minds federates?), just a few programs of the same type.
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Or maybe I’m missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?
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Threads won't affect Lemmy that much. Threads users will basically have to deliberately interact with Lemmy posts or communities to show up.
I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time.
If that is your general approach, why are you suddenly so eager to hand over that responsibility to the instance owner? Why are you pushing for that instances should curate the feeds of all their users, rather than the users themselves?
Fallacy much ?
Because I don't want to be federated with threads doesn't mean I want to hand over the curating to the instance owner, there's such a thing as nuances.
I also formulated a wish for world to defederate, but my solution when they didn't is to leave, you don't see me brigading for them to absolutely do it, so please do not lend to me what I didn't say.
Then you can block threads yourself, as a user. It's as easy as that. Blocking threads on the entire instance makes it so admins are curating content for users. You don't get a choice when an instance defederates, you do when it federates. Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.
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I'm having trust issues with them. I had an issue with them in their support community where they most likely deleted comments and then wouldn't own up, and now I'm at another instance. I would have left when they said they wouldn't defederate threads anyway. Leaving isn't that hard. If .19 gets figured out, you're supposed to be able to leave easily as well.
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Glad I left World, I want absolutely nothing to do with Threads.
In my unbiased opinion you chose a great instance
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