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Joost Klein Thread | AVROTROS releases statement (self.eurovision)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by Korne127 to c/eurovision

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As there are so many posts about this topic and it's getting a bit out of hand, I'll create one central place where we can talk about this stuff and share updates.
If there are very big updates, I might create a new post as the new megathread but for now, please don't create new posts for updates but post them here as comments.

Latest news: AVROTROS (the Dutch broadcaster) released a statement. The full statement is in the comments but roughly, they state that against made agreements, Joost Klein was filmed directly after getting off the stage and getting to the greenroom. He indicated he didn't want to be filmed, but this was not respected, leading to a threatening movement from Joost towards the camera, but he did not touch the camera women. This was the whole incident leading to the investigation by EBU and police, according to them.

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[–] Deestan 48 points 6 months ago (5 children)

So latest statement is he was harassed by camerapeople in an agreed-upon camera-free area, who persisted after several statements that he did not want to be filmed. Then he did not touch anyone but gestured threateningly, and was disqualified?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Extra fun is how many sources originally talked about a physical confrontation

[–] Deestan 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And emphasized it's a female crew member, as if that was relevant apart from letting people's imaginations run to the worst places.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Because there was so much emphasis on the person “assaulted” being a woman I was bracing for the worst.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

EBU: We do not condone aggressive finger wagging. Offenders will be prosecuted.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm having a hard time what gesture someone could make it me that I would find threatening. All I can think of is sliding your finger over your throat and still I'd probably find it hilariously cringe rather than intimidating

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Starting to quickly move towards them with fists raised?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I think this is the most probable one

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

That gesture depends on the eyes whilst, are they set to crazy mofo or not

[–] return2ozma 6 points 6 months ago

It seems like they baited him to try to get him out.

[–] Linkerbaan 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Previous rumors also stated it was an israeli journalist harassing him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

There is a video of the Israeli song-writer doing exactly this. There was a couple filming and joost walked behind them and you can see the song-writer harassing joost.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Those were rumours and all parties have said that no Journalists or other delegations were involved. It was a member of the official Eurovision producing crew.