this post was submitted on 08 May 2024
229 points (96.7% liked)

politics

19229 readers
3100 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] givesomefucks 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Hold up.

I'm talking about food prep regulations, cooking to an internal temperature.

Which is very easy for idiots to not follow.

You seem to be talking about farm regulations preventing infected meat. That is not happening and not really possible. It takes a single microscopic egg.

We can't count on farm regulations.

But food prep regulations are like vaccines, if everyone does it, people start to think we don't need it and stop following it.

Are you aware of RFK's comments on vaccines?

He's exactly the type of guy that wouldnt care if pork was undercooked

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, I understand that. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 165 Fahrenheit will kill parasites. But health regulations on farms have essentially eliminated the risk of parasites to begin with, specifically to mitigate the idiots. RFK admitted to eating in a foreign country that doesn't have the same safety standards. That's the reason he was infected with parasites.

[–] ickplant 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s 145 for pork, 160 for ground pork. They changed it a while ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The same applies for ground beef as well. It's the grinding up of the meat that creates a zone for bacteria to infect it. The reason they changed pork to 145 is because they created health regulations that eliminated the risk of parasites and allow them to only cook it to 145.

[–] givesomefucks -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No, I don't know what you think you know about farms, but there is no way to eliminate it from pigs except keeping them inside in a controlled environment.

A pig will eat literally anything.

A single mouse or bird getting to close can introduce it. They also love to roll around in their own shit, which can cause it to spread among a population.

We can take steps at farms like precautionary medications for all pigs, but lots of people don't want that in their food and it's expensive.

If you wait to treat till symptoms, some will be butchered while infected.

RFK admitted to eating in a foreign country that doesn’t have the same safety standards. That’s the reason he was infected with parasites.

He's also racist and whether or not he ate undercooked pork he's blaming it on a lower income foreign country.

Dude literally had dead brain worms and was complaining about the mental effects, why are you taking his word as gossipal? In the quote even he says doctors can't say where he got it, which is obvious.

He's guessing it was from Asia.

If food safety wasnt such a serious issue we'd have been done a while ago. But it's really important you stop telling people it's safe to ~~eat raw pork.~~ not follow food prep regulations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I never said it was safe to eat raw pork. Stop creating strawmen that have nothing to do with this conversation...

[–] givesomefucks -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I confused you with the other person who keeps saying food prep isn't important in this thread...

Those are the type of people who are agreeing with you btw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they are agreeing with me because health regulations are responsible for eliminating parasites, not because people overcook pork.

Seriously, take your own advice. Stop talking about food safety. You are not an authority, so stop acting like one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

A little information is a dangerous thing, it seems

[–] someguy3 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's both, regulations during the animals life and cooking. Wild animals have way more parasites than domestic ones.

[–] givesomefucks -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's not both tho...

Proper preparation is what works.

Mitigating infection of the animal is a step we do because we know a non zero amount of idiots won't follow food prep regulations.

It lowers the chances, but doesn't make it impossible.

Hell, 100% clean meat can still pick it up between butchering and consumption.

Is it common? No. But it is with people who habitually flaunt food prep regulations.

[–] someguy3 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Regulations cover both. That is what I'm saying, regulations. And regulations both contribute to food safety. I'm not saying that safety during animal life is enough, as you seem to want to suggest. I'm simply covering that regulations cover both, and both contribute to food safety.

If you want to put it another way, we're talking about different things. I'm talking about the entirety of the food and regulation system, both animal and cooking. And you're focusing exclusively on cooking. (I also recognize your username, so I'm out.)

[–] givesomefucks -5 points 7 months ago

Live animal regulations are like seatbelts, they don't prevent a crash, they just hopefully mitigate injury.

They're there in case someone doesn't prepare it correctly.

But if everyone prepared it correctly, no one would get the parasites.

They're the emergency parachute. It's stupid to not bring one, but if everything goes right it's not necessary.

I also recognize your username, so I’m out.)

Then block me so you stop replying and I stop having to reply because misinformation about food safety is a big enough deal I feel obligated.