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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Israel has lost all of my respect in the last year

[–] Woozythebear 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They should never have had your respect in the first place....

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When people recognize they were wrong about something, as smugly satisfying as it may be it's not actually helpful to tell them that they should have been correct sooner.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's about being smug. It's about pointing out the important fact that none of this is new except the scale. Divide by 100-1000 and this is just daily life in Palestine.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So Israel’s been shutting down other newspapers before?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No; they just arrest activists and journalists (sometimes but not always have their lackies at the PA do it). Actually shuttering a newspaper is a first AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is that the line? Everything before was fine, but this is what caused them to lose your respect?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago

Just give it a break for fuck’s sake jesus christ

[–] peg -2 points 5 months ago

You respected Israelis a year ago? Please catch up.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And just like with Russia, my soul bleeds for the people who have nothing to do with this...

[–] Linkerbaan 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At least in Russia the elections were fake

[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 5 months ago

The Kung-Fu is strong

[–] Woozythebear -3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

And who would that be? The exactly 1 IDF soldier that refused to fight? Because all Israelis are IDF soldiers.

[–] AngryCommieKender 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The children that are not yet IDF

[–] pivot_root 2 points 5 months ago

The children are Hamas militants if they live in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There was an article posted recently about tens of thousands of Israelis marching in Tel Aviv, demanding Bibi resign and an immediate ceasefire.

[–] davepleasebehave 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they want a new government. it's not about the genocide. they generally support the genocide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well idk really, since the only "not USA approved" news I ever get is here, so I can't really make an informed argument either for or against what you're saying. I just don't know how credible any news source may be, regardless whether slant is immediately obvious or not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There.

It's NYT (yeah not the best source hence the weird slant) reporting on a poll by Tel Aviv university.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Oh gees, I remember reading this now. My fault, thank you for bringing it back to memory. That's... not encouraging at all, is it?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For the hostages. I mean it's not like I don't want the hostages to return but most of them are definitely not there for the genocide. See: How 88% of Israeli Jews support the war, and 94% think Israel is using too little or just enough fire power.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would love to see sources. I'm American so sources are limited either through our regular choices or my ignorance of outside sources, not to mention the credibility thereof. I'll take a look at any you care to provide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So I slightly misremembered the 88% question; it's whether the answerer thinks the number of Gazans killed is justified by the war. General support for the war doesn't show up, but it is high (75% backed a Rafah operation back in March).

Anyway there: https://archive.md/PWZ1h

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you. Sad upvote.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Ask any Israeli you see and they'll probably tell you...