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[–] TheGrandNagus 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Liberty is a US company, and owns F1.

That's not how this works. McDonald's owns McDonald's UK, but that doesn't mean that McDonald's UK follows US laws. It follows UK laws. The same applies to FOM, which is a British business, based in the UK, and complies with UK law. US laws don't apply to them, nor is there any mechanisms to apply them.

How is that hard to understand? How many more times do I need to explain it to you? If you set up a lemonade stand in the US then another in Spain, they'll follow the laws of where they're based respectively. They wouldn't bother be under the guise of US law.

this is not a contract issue.

Yes it is.

This is not about Andretti

Yes it is.

That question is in reality useless, since the NFL would love to have a British team.

Stop dodging the question.

and the NFL was found to be breaking British antitrust laws; I've got no problem with them being sued.

Interesting... So you think any country should be able to sue any company or sporting organisation for their business elsewhere. Cool. I'll be awaiting, say, Germany suing USPS and you cheering for it.

[–] Rapidcreek 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are US laws for business. Most countries have them. Antitrust laws are not contingent on internal contracts. It's a law not a contract dispute. If you can acknowledge that it might be worthwhile to go further.

[–] TheGrandNagus 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

US laws don't apply outside of the US.

I get that you're really into your nationalism and American exceptionalism over there, but surely you understand that.

US law is as relevant here as Japanese law.

[–] Rapidcreek 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sigh.

US laws apply to anybody or anything on US Ground. That includes people, business, and things like money and banking.

If you want to practice monopolistic business practices in other parts of the world and exclude the US and U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement countries, that is up to you and the antitrust laws of the EU and Britain.

If this is your way of saying you understand this is not a contract matter, say so.

[–] TheGrandNagus 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, and FOM isn't in the US, it's in the UK. I can show you a map if you like.

This really isn't complicated.

[–] Rapidcreek 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly

So, it's not a contract issue

You are dead wrong about F1 being a foreign entity but suppose it is. Suppose it is incorporated in Britain instead of Delaware. Then it still can be indicted as was FIFA, a Swiss company, as this article explains.

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/27/why-fifa-is-being-prosecuted-in-the-us.html#:~:text=FIFA%20may%20be%20based%20in,some%20of%20its%20top%20officials.

BTW, the Feds won this case.

[–] TheGrandNagus 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is a foreign entity, are you stupid? The UK is not in the US. I can show you a map if you like. How could you possibly argue that a business based in the UK isn't a foreign entity to the US.

Currie explained that CONCACAF’s headquarters has been in the United States—in New York and then Florida—for the entire time period included in the indictment.

Doesn't apply to FOM.

Also, this covers financial crimes in which American financial companies and a headquarters based in the US was involved.

Very different to FOM, a British company, the FIA, a French company, and teams (various countries) setting standards on who can join their private club.

Should the NFL be under the jurisdiction of the UK?

[–] Rapidcreek 1 points 4 months ago

OK, we'll end this right here. You obviously are on the edge. I'll block you for good measure.