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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It amazes me that no-one ever seems to say (not that I have seen, at least)...Isreal is a western, democratic state with nuclear weapons in the middle east.

It's basically a major power base for the west in the predominantly arab part of the world.

Anything else is a side arguement as far as I'm concerned.

[–] IndustryStandard 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Israel is an Apartheid state not a Democracy. Please don't spread lies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Well yeah but why would the US quibble over the strength of their democracy? It's a western, pseudo-democratic state with nuclear weapons in the middle east.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

What apartheid are they committing? Is Palestine not its own democracy?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is the only explanation that spans parties and ideologies. Loosing this foothold would be detrimental to regional military and diplomatic influence.

[–] Maggoty 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The US has something like 18 bases in the middle east. Israel is not a strategic asset in any way, shape, or form.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

We need to trust such a country to be judicious in their use of force, to not engage in any unnecessary conflict that puts both they and their allies at risk, and we want that country to be stable and share our values.

Israel is not demonstrating these qualities, at least not now.

Given that, why should we continue our support?

[–] marcos 6 points 6 months ago

Isn't the current government on extended time? That's not a very democratic thing.

Anyway, when Iran was quickly moving to become a democracy, the US wasn't supporting them.

[–] Maggoty 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They have nukes but other than that we have better allies and better democracies in the region.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago