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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The answer to "not all men" is indeed "enough men".

The issue isn't that it's 100% of men that do a thing. It's that it's enough you have to plan for it to happen every time. Ah in that case you may as well just assume it's all and be pleasantly surprised if you're wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

But why have people I know given me a ton of flak for the actions of men that I've never met nor had the opportunity to try to correct the actions of, merely for having a penis? Like, sorry for not being a clairvoyant and not stopping something from happening to you before I met you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do people give you a ton of flak, or do they complain about things they've experienced exclusively at the hands of men and you're getting defensive about it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

If it were just venting to me, I wouldn't say I was getting flak. Its the venting but also the finger pointing, acting like I was there and egging it on, when I wasn't around it at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe because you defend them. Or they see you not being a proactive force. It's not enough to stand by and wait for something horrendous to happen to try to stop. You need to be part of the culture of change which means changing how you joke and talk about things to actively pursuing to change even bad and minor habits of those you socialize with.

Anything less is condoning.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Thanks for assuming I'm the problem or at least perpetuating it.

Because I'm a man, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That’s not how assumptions work though. You might be “pleasantly surprised”, then the guy realizes “wow, I super hated being treated like that just for being male” and wisely stays the fuck away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ask any woman, they'll let you know that some guys take that "wow, I super hated being treated like that" and don't wisely stay the fuck away. Someone who cannot empathize with the caution women have to show around strangers is probably not the best partner anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

“Caution” alone is fine, it’s cute you think that’s the extent of what gets justified by that line of thinking.