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Local woman convinced that misogyny is no longer a problem thanks to man shouting "Not All Men" every time she talks (chaser.com.au)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

in most cultures, rape is seen as pretty bad.

Yes, literally everyone agrees that rape is bad. The problem is that in our culture, we have a bad habit of rationalizing what we do as not really rape. How many times have you heard someone ask what a woman was wearing, or why she was walking home at night instead of driving, or why she was alone at a bar, or why she didn't fight back, or why she didn't report sexual violence as soon as it happened? Why does nearly every woman have at least one experience with sexual violence? Why did we elect a guy who openly admitted to sexual assault as president? It's almost like we have a culture around enabling and forgiving rape, in large part by rationalizing it as "not really" rape. I wonder if there's a word for a culture that enables sexual violence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

How many times have you heard someone ask what a woman was wearing,

never

or why she was walking home at night instead of driving,

never

or why she was alone at a bar, or why she didn't fight back, or why she didn't report sexual violence as soon as it happened?

never, this is 2024 and all your points are from 1970...

Why does nearly every woman have at least one experience with sexual violence?

also not true

Why did we elect a guy who openly admitted to sexual assault as president?

most of us didn't elect him, most of the country was outraged by this, and although he has sexually assaulted women for real, the way he said it was framed as joking... and a lot of people accepted it as just a joke (it turned out he was actually bragging...)

It's almost like we have a culture around enabling and forgiving rape, in large part by rationalizing it as "not really" rape.

except it's not. And even if all your points weren't insane distortions, it's still not a culture around rape, it has been a terrible aspect of our culture in the past, but we've improved drastically, and continue to improve.

trying to say it's "rape culture" is intellectually lazy and actually destructive in that it hamstrings any attempt at reasonable discussion... so essentially, you're enabling rape by trying to make it about "all men" and redefining all culture as "rape culture"...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the way he said it was framed as joking... and a lot of people accepted it as just a joke (it turned out he was actually bragging...)

YOU HAVE JUST DESCRIBED RAPE CULTURE.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

writing in all capital letters does not make a coherent argument.
in fact, the exact opposite.
btw, he was joking that as a celebrity, all women are automatically consenting to his gropes... not that as a celebrity he can sexually assault women....
you have to be famous to grope someone

I DID NOT JUST DESCRIBE RAPE CULTURE YOU MORON