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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2442782

Biden gave a speech this morning condemning the university antiwar protesters. He calls them violent and says that they are protesting illegally.

full video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXLjdZbwutY

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[–] Breezy 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump might just win. I feel like Biden assumes he can ignore millions of young voters and they'll still vote for him. Younger adults much like teenagers are more spiteful, there is a certain point for everyone and with every negative action Biden does he loses more people who just cant accept anymore.

[–] Omegamanthethird 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Biden isn't ignoring anyone. He has to balance appeasing everyone. Even in the speech he stressed that the right to peaceful protest must be respected, he condemns both antisemitism and Islamophobia. He has supported Israel as they are a weird surrogate country for us while also strongly condemning their actions and working with them directly to TRY to minimize the damage.

He is trying to do the most good while not letting Trump become a dictator. He can't ignore ANYBODY. That's only chance he has to preventing another Trump presidency.

And yeah, I say this knowing that he should have dropped out and let another Dem with less baggage take over.

[–] Breezy 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Man your Biden does a lot more then the one i have.

[–] Omegamanthethird 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Low information voters don't pay attention and then get pissed about it. Nuance and reason lose out to passion and ignorance. Sorry, Biden gets a lot of shit done. And he can get more done with more support. But instead we're going to get another Trump presidency and fight for every civil right we have like we did the last time.

[–] go_go_gadget -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And he can get more done with more support.

More genocide, blocking strikes and economic wars against American workers?

Thanks I'm good.

[–] Omegamanthethird 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're getting more genocide if he loses.

You're getting more blocked strikes if he loses.

You're getting more economical wars against American workers if he loses.

Sorry if you don't like his stances. But if you care about these things, Biden is the only choice.

[–] go_go_gadget -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Omegamanthethird 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cool. Things are going to get worse like last time. I'll remember when Trump orders protesters to be murdered.

[–] go_go_gadget -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Are you going to remember all the people who voted for a pro-corporate, genocide supporting trash candidate in the 2020 primaries?

[–] Omegamanthethird 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, they didn't. I won't judge people based on future knowledge.

Also, he's pretty well pro-union. I will always take into consideration what a president has to do due to public pressure or fallout. But he always supports unions when he can.

[–] go_go_gadget -2 points 5 months ago

I'm good with that then. If you're gonna hand those people a pass your opinion doesn't mean much to me.

[–] go_go_gadget 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Omegamanthethird 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you. He literally has to appeal to centrists if he wants to win. He has no choice. Even the slightest shift means he has no chance of winning.

[–] go_go_gadget 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

... I'm confused by your response. Biden has been and continues to appeal to centerists right? Like that's what he's been doing for his entire presidency.

[–] Omegamanthethird 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He has, and continues to, support progressives and moderates. He's very much a progressive-leaning moderate that is willing to go further left if he can (something Hillary refused to do).

The only time he really goes hard centrist is when it's potentially catastrophic for him to do otherwise. And even then he goes centrist, he tries to find ways to push the situation left (eg. border security, Israel, railroad strike).

[–] go_go_gadget 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Lol no.

Biden has spent his entire campaign catering exclusively to moderates and liberals while thumbing his nose at progressives and leftists and that's why I won't be voting for him again.

I can't believe you even mentioned the railroad strike in this context. Blocking a strike is thumbing his nose at progressives and leftists. I fucking hate him for doing that. Fuck Joe Biden.

[–] Omegamanthethird 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cool, your next Dem nominee isn't even going to support Unions, isn't going to push green initiatives, isn't going to fight against abortion bans, isn't going to fight student debt, is going to go hard on immigrants, is going to be pro-genocide. If you don't suppose a moderate Dem president who pushes progressive policy when he can, then your vote doesn't matter and you're going to end up with a '90s era conservative Democrat. Maybe Joe Manchin. That's after 4 more years of Trump taking away more civil liberties. I'm sure you'll be happy about that.

[–] go_go_gadget 1 points 5 months ago

Dem nominee isn’t even going to support Union

Using your definition of support or mine?