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Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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[–] PugJesus 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I absolutely am in favor of Biden cutting off aid, at least conditionally (though honestly I'd be ecstatic if it was unconditional and permanent, fuck Israel). If it's a lose-lose situation, one should go with the more moral loss. I just also recognize that it's not a cut-and-dry strategic decision.

I hope that if the anti-Israel momentum continues, the pressure will cause Biden to shift - and considering his current responsiveness and his history of swaying with popular Dem opinion, I have hopes that he will if hostility towards Israel continues to increase in the Dem party.

Honestly, I didn't think we'd even make it this far. When Israel's disproportionate response to Oct 7th happened, I was well and truly prepared for the US electorate to shrug their shoulders and continue supporting Israel at the same rate like every other time this has happened in my lifetime. So maybe I'm more cynical than I should be on the matter.

[–] OccamsTeapot 2 points 4 months ago

It's complicated for sure. I never thought it would get this far either.

I mean, I absolutely am in favor of Biden cutting off aid, at least conditionally (though honestly I'd be ecstatic if it was unconditional and permanent, fuck Israel). If it's a lose-lose situation, one should go with the more moral loss. I just also recognize that it's not a cut-and-dry strategic decision.

Agreed! I think conditionally cutting is best, make it clear you don't support war crimes and genocide while still having cover - "the funding is available, we just insist that international law is followed."