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Despite Bill Barr’s repeatedly voicing concerns about Donald Trump, he has now said he will vote for him again this November

Bill Barr has claimed Donald Trump often suggested executing his political rivals during heated moments of his four-year tenure in the White House.

Former White House communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin told The View back in December that Mr Trump once called for a staff member to be put to death for leaking a story about the then-president going down to a bunker during Black Lives Matter protests in summer 2020.

Former Trump administration attorney general Mr Barr was asked about the claims during an interview on CNN last week.

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[–] Dasus 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The history books tell a very different story. Again, naive.

Your refusal to read history doesn't make your fantasies true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_resistance_in_German-occupied_Europe

"I promise you if the baddies"

And you don't see any irony in writing out things like that in the same comment that you deign to call someone 'naive' in?

I’m armed and trained as well buddy.

So that's a "no, I'm not in the military, but I'm an American gun-owner". Yes, I think that's probably readily apparent to most people reading this conversation.

You still can't even define "the baddies" (what a hilariously inane concept to begin with), let alone propose anything else than vague threats of violence aimed at "them". Unions and politicians actually achieve things, while you sit there, terminally online, shining your Walmart bought guns and fantasizing of violence.

It really isn't the fault of others that you refuse to read history. "Facts don't care about your feelings" as I've heard some other equally rhetorically talented American say.

Authoritarianism doesn't work. Unions do, like other forms of cooperative movements which utilise the extremely broad economic and political power that the masses have, when organised.

Never heard of Tank Man either, I suppose?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_resistance

The "Singing revolution" (1989–1991) in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, led to the three Baltic countries' restoration of independence from the Soviet Union in 1991

Recently, nonviolent resistance has led to the Rose Revolution in Georgia. Research shows that nonviolent campaigns diffuse spatially. Information on nonviolent resistance in one country could significantly affect nonviolent activism in other countries.

There's a whole list of hundreds of examples from before the beginning of our calendar to modern day. I stress, once again; you refusing to read history doesn't make your fantasies true. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[–] fukurthumz420 -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You still can’t even define “the baddies”

Jim Grech Shaikh Nawaf S. Al-Sabah Michael Whatley Larry Fink Clarence Thomas Samuel Alito Neil Gorsuch Jonathan Lockwood Tucker Carlson Ryan Lance Amin H. Nasser Greg Abbott

I could go on...

But whatever. You refuse to acknowledge that the death of any of those guys would be a win for humanity? I guarantee you we would see more results with swift action in that direction than useless protests and -checks notes- singing.

[–] Dasus 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"I could go on."

Oh, please, do.

So you are asserting that we should just straight up execute those people, and some other possible petroleum company leaders and shitty corrupt politicians, and that will definitely fix the world. And you don't see that being reductive or naive in the slightest?

You refuse to acknowledge that non-violent activism can deal with systemic change better than your ridiculously vague threats of violence towards a couple of examples of politicans and fossil fuel people who could be replaced instantly with another one just like them.

You still refuse to read history. Just just refuse. Just like you claim you're "trained", which you are not, you do not know history, in the slightest.

How did the civil rights movement work in the US? Why?

Who has arguably been more influenftial in the history of the human race, Jesus or Hitler? Do you know what the word "martyr" means and where it comes from? Can you name the last time workers rights were improved by explicitly violent movements (and not peaceful protests which turned rowdy).

No-one is denying the power of change of violence, but I'll forgive you thinking that, because reading comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strengths. The point is that non-violent cooperative movements are much more powerful for meaningful, lasting change.

Since you just absolutely refuse to acknowledge the power of nonviolent resistance in favour of your childish fantasies, allow me to list examples.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago#End_of_slavery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_Resistance_(Hungary)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1st_Movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_Egyptian_revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-cooperation_movement_(1919%E2%80%931922)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_resistance_movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_resistance_to_apartheid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Democratic_Revolution_of_1954

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_United_States_involvement_in_the_Vietnam_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larzac

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_of_Liberia_Mass_Action_for_Peace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Egyptian_revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_revolution

The fact that you can't see that your resistance to the idea that nonviolent resistance is more powerful for meaningful change (not to mention morally superior) is partly responsible for why the world is as shit as it is. And if yo somehow found a genie to make your fantasies true, the world would be an even worse place. Who do you think you are? The Unabomber? Just drop off a few "evil" keyfigures and the world will all right itself. It's not about achieving systemic changes in attitude, let's just summarily execute some corrupt idiots, because there's definitely not more to replace the ones you decide aren't worth living.

It's just so utterly utterly childish what you're writing mister not-a-trained-soldier. I have taken a literal vow to defend my country, and will do so, but unlike some deeply disturbed gun-bros, I don't dream about violence, I actively avoid it. See, unlike you, I'm not afraid. That's why I don't own a gun, I'm not a pussy who "needs one for protection". I confront people, but I don't need to resort to violence. I use my words, like an adult person. And I do that with for example the fairs I drove when I used to drive a taxi, oftentimes meaning drunk and drugged up bikers as well. None of them ever hit me, although everyone that got mad said they would. Hot air, just like you. Nothing more.

If you actually want to improve the world, at least keep your mouth shut so you're not bothering actual conversations with your useless violence fantasies.

[–] fukurthumz420 0 points 6 months ago

as i said in my previous reply, i'd like to really explore our differences in depth. i would like to mention now that, if you rinse repeat the process i described, no one would ever want that job and without leadership, these companies would begin to crumble and exert less influence over global politics.