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Goodbye, Gas. The Future of New York City’s Pizza Is Electric. (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] reddig33 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wood fired pizza ovens are a thing.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And the article discusses that. The problem is their tendency to produce a whole lot of particulate air pollution.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also you need to be really good at pizza making to produce a good pizza from a wood fired oven. If you’re ever in Italy, you might start noticing that there are way more wood fired ovens than there are good pizzaioli to man them.

The results can be horrifying.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

that has not been my experience, i've found a bad wood fired pizza, better than most gas fired ones

[–] ikidd 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

5% of Canada's forest burned last year, and Quebec City was running around shutting down pizza ovens because of "particulates".

Jesus, the level of bikeshedding that goes on is astounding.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's not like adding more pollution to the air is gonna make things any better. This is an easy w in a world of intractable, difficult problems. We are barely into the bell curve of where the climate could go, and people are already bitching about the tiny hurricanes, tornadoes, winter storms, droughts, insurance increases, food costs, and wildfires. If you think it's bad now, just wait and see what it's like in 30-60 years if we don't change our behavior, haha.

[–] Damn990099 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How's Pizza Oven's supposed to support his family now?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

whataboutism.