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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Sorry, but I don't listen to pro-AR propaganda.

The 45~50 round magazine, caseless ammunition and delayed-recoil 3-round burst of the G11 are just objectively better than some piddly M16.

The magazine for a standard issue M16 can only hold 30 rounds max, and US troops don't even usually load the full 30 rounds as a result of Vietnam-era superstition. That means the G11 has at least 66% more bullet per magazine than the inferior M16.

Furthermore, the fact that the G11's recoil is delayed on 3-round bursts means it has the pinpoint accuracy needed to efficiently dispatch hostile forces with extreme prejudice. Meanwhile, the M16 is gonna recoil for each one of those shots, throwing off your aim and making the burst-fire mode useless. Using a G11? Show those terrorists who's boss. Using an M16? You might as well get on your knees and suck their dicks.

Finally, the 4.73x33mm caseless munitions used by the G11 are better in every way. They don't tumble upon impact with a target, making your kills cleaner and more compliant with internation conventions, resulting in them being more humane than the brutal 5.56x45mm NATO rounds employed by M16s. Additionally, the caseless nature of the rounds makes them more environmentally friendly than traditional munitions as you won't leave spent brass everywhere when using them. Less trash = more good for the environment. To top things off, while the tendency for the G11's caseless ammunition to cook-off under heavy usage might seem like a design flaw, it is actually a work of genius engineering as it allows troops to readily turn their rifles into improvised explosives while under heavy fire. This allows them to throw the rifle in the direction of surpressing fire and take advantage of the full 45-50 round magazine without ever leaving defensive cover. I bet your weak-ass M16 can't do that, can it?

As you can see, the G11 is highly superior to the standard M16 and should have been fielded. However, Big AR got in the way by reunifying East and West Germany, thereby causing Germany's political climate to change and the G11 to become unnecessary; while also spreading rumors about how the tendency for the G11's superior caseless ammo to cook off under heavy use was a design flaw and not, in fact, an obviously intentional design feature.

Edit: improved some phrasing.

[–] HocEnimVeni 3 points 8 months ago

It's not a bug, it's a feature. Got it..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Masterful.

I was actually typing up a serious reply to your other comment until I read about HK being a small niche indie gun developer rofl.

The fucking Vietnam era unfully loaded mags thing... god its been a while since I've seen that.

So uh what are your thoughts on the Polish Grot originally being developed as both a standard and bullpup modular design only to have the bullpup version being dropped?

Also, who would win in a firefight, DEVGRU or SAS rofl?