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The walls of Apple’s garden are tumbling down (www.theverge.com)

submitted 7 months ago by Dragxito to c/technology

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[–] kinsnik 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s interesting, because for my iPhone that is true. I was a bit concerned with the walled garden, but made the switch from Android because of privacy (not that Apple is perfect, just much better than Google). I can’t recall a single time when i wanted or needed more than what the iPhone offered.

But with my iPad there are multiple times when i wished i could run a local web dev environment, or run MacOS apps (it is using the save M1 as my computer after all)

[–] disguy_ovahea 2 points 7 months ago

Agreed. I’m hoping the move to M chips for iPad Pro will come with some macOS software compatibility in the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What about discovering and installing private app that don't use proprietary big tech service, including sending push notifications?

On android this is very easy, you can just search and install apps from fdroid, where all apps has been manually audited to make sure there is no telemetry and proprietary dependencies, including network service dependency.

Fdroid also build all the apps in their app store to prevent developers from secretly inject backdoors (think xz backdoor, and xcode ghost).

I don't believe the fdroid model works in Apple's walled garden.

[–] kinsnik 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i used fdroid when i used Android, but now i feel like it is a false sense of security. like, yeah, the apps themselves might not have telemetry, but the whole OS itself is a giant spyware made by the largest ad company in the world, so unless you are using a rooted, custom rom that has taken all the google apis out of the way, i still feel that my data is safer in ios than android with fdroid. the only real way to have data fully safe is too minimize the use of apps completely thou

i would use apps from an ios version of fdriod, if i had the chance, thou, so i think your point is valid

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think it is useful to use fdroid in conjunction with private OS like graphene, divest and calyx all with excellent android compatibilities. Unfortunately, grapheneos, IMO the best of the three, is only avaliable on a small set of devices (so is ios).

But I do agree with your point, if you use the stock android, even with privacy hardening, it is probably still not so private. But I don't know if a hardened stock android is "worse" than an average user's iPhone.