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The women who came forward against Harvey Weinstein reacted with fury after the disgraced media mogul’s rape and sexual assault convictions were overturned by a New York appeals court on Thursday.

Weinstein, 72, was found guilty in 2020 of raping and assaulting two women, and is serving his 23-year sentence at a prison in upstate New York.

In a 4-3 decision on Thursday, New York’s highest court ruled the original judge made “egregious errors” in the trial by allowing prosecutors to call witnesses whose allegations were not related to the charges at hand.

Weinstein was once one of Hollywood’s most well-connected and powerful producers who made a series of Oscar-winning films. But behind the glamourous facade, it was a different story. More than 80 women have accused him of abuse ranging from groping to rape. Even with his conviction overturned in New York, he remains convicted of rape in California.

The Weinstein revelations launched the #MeToo movement in 2017, which saw women from all corners of society come forward to talk about their experiences of sexual harassment and assault.

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[–] Mostly_Gristle 105 points 7 months ago (52 children)

It must be amazing to have that much money and influence.

Coincidentally the podcast I'm listening to as I type this is talking about a man sitting on death row who was convicted solely on the testimony of one "bite mark analyst" who was later shown to be an absolute fraud in a field that is already highly dubious at best. The appeals court in his case feels that just because the "expert" was wrong in all his other cases doesn't necessarily mean he was wrong in his. So that's cool.

[–] FlyingSquid 31 points 7 months ago (44 children)

in a field that is already highly dubious at best

A huge amount of so-called forensic "science" is dubious. Blood splatter analysis, bite mark analysis, voice print analysis, handwriting analysis, all bullshit. Even more 'respected' forms of forensic analysis are not slam-dunks like people, including people on juries, are convinced they are. Fingerprints can be misidentified, especially if it's a partial print (and it's a myth that no two are alike anyway). DNA samples can be tainted.

Basically, the entire field of forensics is built on a lot of very shaky ground and, unfortunately, has resulted in a lot of wrongful convictions. It needs to be overhauled by actual scientists.

[–] Grimy -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (43 children)

As far as I know, there has never been two people with the same fingerprints, it isn't a myth.

Not that we shouldn't be critical of our standards when it comes to evidence and what not.

[–] supamanc 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Thing is, as with DNA, the whole fingerprint is not examined, just certain reference points. The chances of 10 points in a particular print matching another random person's are much much greater than the whole fingerprint.

[–] harmsy 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

10 points in a particular print matching

You can run a better match test than that on GIMP just by using the difference blend mode and some rotation. It's absurd that this is what they rely on instead.

[–] Grimy 1 points 7 months ago

I and the other user are talking about the actual fingerprint on the finger which looking at it now might not be the right term.

I'm mainly saying I don't believe something is automatically false just because we haven't verified all 8 billion datapoints, even more so when we've already sampled quite a bit. I don't get why it's fantasy or a myth like the other user is saying.

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