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The Bute House Agreement falls. Patrick Harvey may well be resigning today too. Minority government to continue for rest of the term, no sign of a no confidence vote but next budget negotiations to be fraught for sure

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[–] Streetlights 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Polling suggests that the greens could attract disaffected snp voters, they might be in line to get more seats if an election is held soonish.

Nothing for them to lose anymore.

[–] Olap 3 points 9 months ago

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24277524.lorna-slater-launches-attack-humza-yousaf-green-pact-scrapped/

Slater raging. They may well back a no confidence. Hard to see Humza survive that. Forbes for FM by June?

[–] Olap 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know many jumping ship to greens. Definitely older people are more Alba curious, but also little signs at the ballot box. Widespread dissatisfaction with the SNP, but what's the alternative? Given the greens' record in government to date I wouldn't trust them with more power personally. Cannot see many SNP going back to Labour, they will continue to haemorrhage to Tories. I can see indy votes just not turning out and unionist parties picking up a bit more as incompetence continues - meaning a Labour/Tory alliance could be on the cards next time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I really can't see Labour ever jumping into bed with the Tories. It'd be electoral suicide and not only in Scotland; it'd be potentially damaging in Wales and many university towns in England, too.

A Lab-Lib Dem coalition is a maybe, but there probably aren't and won't be enough of them for it to be worth it.

[–] Olap 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They do it in councils up and down the land. Now they may not do a coalition, confidence and supply only, but it's the only viable route and I'd bet money on it if the numbers made sense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think this is true? As far as I know, there was just one council (Aberdeen) where any Labour councillors formally joined a Conservative coalition, and they were all suspended and so are no longer members of Scottish Labour. There may be others where there's confidence and supply agreements short of a formal coalition, granted.

I'm not sure how much local agreements can tell us, anyway. ~~There are several councils with formal Lab/SNP coalitions~~, [EDIT: I was wrong about this, see discussion below!] but I don't think that makes a Lab/SNP coalition in Holyrood very likely!

[–] Olap 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Scotland - hard to gauge how often an anti-snp deal is done here. But I don't know many councils where Labour/Con minorities are engaging with the SNP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Turns out I'm out-of-date with my info!

You're right, there aren't currently any Lab/SNP or any Lab/Con coalitions, and I guess all those Aberdeen former-Labour councillors lost their seats, as well as their membership of the party, which is a good cautionary tale for any Labour politicians considering a pact with the Tories.

[–] ForgotAboutDre 0 points 9 months ago

Further than that. Labour councilors that support SNP councils to stop Tories getting in power have been kicked out the party.

Labour hate the SNP. Tories are just colleagues they disagree with. They don't think along lines like left/right, progressive, best for governing etc.