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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (44 children)

In the last couple weeks, I've noticed a sudden and dramatic shift in tone with how Biden is talked about on Lemmy as well as other corners of the internet I lurk on(e.g. this comment section). Before, it seemed like the general opinion was "he's nowhere close to my 1st choice, but the alternative is Trump." And now I feel like people are a lot quicker to jump to his defense and treat him like one of the better presidents of our lifetime.

I'm gonna admit that I'm a lot less up to date and informed about politics than I should be, but where did this recent pivot on Biden come from?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (22 children)

I haven't seen things saying he's good. I have seen it said, and said, that he's better than expected. It's just that the bar is too low. He might possibly be one of the better president, though not inspiring, just because there aren't many good ones. FDR is good from what I know of him, though I'm sure there's still plenty to complain about. Other than that, we haven't really had any leftist president's in the US. The fact that Biden has mostly been friendly towards unions is a nice change from standard US practice.

Basically, he's not great. He's what we've got. He's also better than it would seem like he would be if you paid attention to his political past.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

All fair points, it was just jarring to see the consensus shift from "both options suck shit" to "Biden will do I guess"

[–] duffman 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Outside of maga and Gaza activists, where are you hearing that Biden sucks?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And speaking of Gaza, didn't Trump say that he wants Israel to finish there as fast as possible?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

which is honestly one of the three options

and the same one biden seems to be encouraging, he's just not dumb enough to say it.

[–] AA5B 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Given that neither Trump nor Biden are Prime Minister of Israel, I think it’s the most realistic option. Given that the rest of the world wants to jump in with embargoes and resolutions and even actions, it may also be more realistic to maintain any influence.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

no the good options both involve bombing the kapo trash, then bombing the kapo trash, then bombing the kapo trash some more. you do not have influence over 'Israel', its a mad dog that needs to be put the fuck down.

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