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[–] jordanlund 78 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, of all the charges he's facing, treason is not one of them.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago

Yet. The electors scheme that dumps directly participated in to conspire with election officials to forge and mail in false elector documents is still undergoing investigation and, with new updates every month from Republicans giving information to the authorities.

This is the one that I thought would be the most likely of causing him serious legal trouble, but this happened across seven states with an unknown number but around a dozen election officials that agreed to forge documents at Trump's and his team's request and then send in the documents to trick the national archives and pence into falsely certifying Trump as the president-elect in the 2020 election.

It's batshit insane, and he was directly involved, and multiple people can corroborate that. The doj the FBI, some of those Republican collaborators are already working with them, I check in every couple weeks just to see what the latest news is.

The investigations and prosecutions by individual states and government agencies are ongoing, so prosecution of trump is still very much on the table, but only when all of the circumstances and information available has been organized and arrayed, and all of the smaller fish have been targeted and dealt with first.

As of March 2024, the Arizona AG is said that they're nearing the end of their investigation.

But that's one state of seven. And there's also the FBI and the doj investigating this, so there's a lot going on.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot

[–] jordanlund 16 points 8 months ago

If he was going to face treason charges, they would have brought it as part of the January 6 trial.

Those charges are:

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/01/1191493880/trump-january-6-charges-indictment-counts

one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States applies to Trump's repeated and widespread efforts to spread false claims about the November 2020 election while knowing they were not true and for allegedly attempting to illegally discount legitimate votes all with the goal of overturning the 2020 election, prosecutors claim in the indictment.

one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding was brought due to the alleged organized planning by Trump and his allies to disrupt the electoral vote's certification in January 2021.

one count of obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding is tied to Trump and his co-conspirators' alleged efforts after the November 2020 election until Jan. 7, 2021, to block the official certification proceeding in Congress.

one count of conspiracy against rights refers to Trump and his co-conspirators alleged attempts to "oppress, threaten and intimidate" people in their right to vote in an election.

[–] disguy_ovahea 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’m surprised they didn’t consider selling classified submarine plans to be treason, as part of the classified documents case.

At one point in his interviews, Butler says he told investigators that Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt repeated classified submarine secrets following a conversation with Trump in spring 2021.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/politics/trump-employee-5-classified-documents-mar-a-lago/index.html

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Semantically, according to US Legal Code you can't commit treason without being at war, and war has not been properly defined by the federal government.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-fake-electors-charges-2020-election-9da5a7e58814ed55ceea1ca55401af85

And Arizona has begun active prosecutions.

Woop wooop.

Not against Trump himself, unfortunately, but as I mentioned everything's still moving forward so just got to wait and see how everything is prosecuted.