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Apparently, it's rare for lawyers to draw objections during their opening statements, but it happened twice for Trump's team today and the judge sustained both objections.

MSNBC Commentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-XetPGnx0M

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[–] Chocrates 13 points 5 months ago (6 children)

My friend was just thinking about that. If Trump got locked up in a state prison, what would the GOP do? They haven't even thought about a running mate to prop up, if Trump somehow can't run, what would they even do?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

Jan 6 was a trial run

[–] disguy_ovahea 9 points 5 months ago

I mean, they already paid for RFK, they may as well get their money’s worth.

[–] jordanlund 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well, it's a little known fact that primaries weren't always a thing. National Conventions are called "Nominating Conventions" for a reason.

The assembled Republican delegates are getting together about a month after this trial ends and they will have to seriously ask themselves "Do we want a convicted felon for President?"

It takes 1,215 delegates of the 2,429 available to become the nominee.

In the days before primaries, this was all settled at the convention. Candidates would do anything necessary to secure the correct number of delegates.

It can STILL happen if, during the primaries, nobody secures enough delegates.

In theory, Trump right now has 1,915 pledged delegates, meaning he won them from a variety of states in the primaries.

But, there's no law requiring a delegate to vote just because someone won a state primary:

https://ballotpedia.org/Republican_delegate_rules,_2024

Former RNC committee member Curly Haugland and public policy consultant Sean Parnell argued in their 2016 book, Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delegate, that delegates are free to vote their conscience and are not bound by state or party laws to vote according to the results of party primaries or caucuses.[9] Click on the following links to learn more about arguments for and against this interpretation of delegate binding:

Green Papers: "The Ties that Bind–or Do They?" (March 19, 2016)
https://www.thegreenpapers.com/PCom/?20160319-0

The Hill: "All Delegates Are Unbound" (July 11, 2016)
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/287198-all-delegates-are-unbound

Politico: "The One Man Who Could Stop Donald Trump" (May 9, 2016)
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/republican-convention-stop-donald-trump-curly-haugland-213879

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have been waiting for the GOP and the MAGoos to go to war since 2015. At this point, cutting Trump off the ticket will be the same as cutting their own throats. The base isn't "Republican" anymore, it's all about Donnie.

[–] ZoopZeZoop 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but he won't live forever, and they'd be back after that. They ditched Fox when they said stuff Trump didn't like, and they're mostly back to Fox again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I don't know what the future holds, but the past is dead an buried.

Reagan personally hated Jimmy Carter, but when the Carter Library opened Reagan gove Carter a speech praised him to the heavens. Today, Reagan's "Big Tent" speech would have him branded a RINO

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How the fuck are there nearly five times more delegates for a single party than for the EC? The citizens are being scammed on representation.

[–] jordanlund 1 points 5 months ago

All the party bosses want a say and to go to the convention. This gets down to the county by county level, wheras the electoral college is simply one vote per congressional district and one vote per senator.

It's the same thing on the Democratic side. 3,936 total delegates, 1,969 needed to win. Biden has 3,061.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/delegate-tracker

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He would still run from prison, zero doubt. He’d announce a running mate, like MTG, and play the Martyr card all the way to Jan 6, 2025.

He could still be elected and have his VP sworn in while he is “incapacitated”. They then pardon him, appoint him president-for-life, and wage all out war on any remaining political opponents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Until they do because they make up whatever they want as they go

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I bet they can if they execute the governor and install a puppet.

[–] Chocrates 1 points 5 months ago

Newsome won't do it but I can see a number of governors that would pardon him from state crimes "for the good of the country"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Imagine being the Secret Service Agent who has to figure out the logistics of this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

hitler also got out early before his second, successful coup attempt, so i guess they'll try getting him out in time