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Don’t wanna bash on Discovery … but is there notable disengagement around the final season? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/startrek

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I’m personally not watching it (you could call me a bit of a disco “hater” and s4 really kinda bummed me out) … but thought I’d see how people are enjoying it and think about getting a paramount subscription.

Asked some friends and they said they’d stopped watching. Then I checked here and the other community and posts about the episodes just seem to be tepid compared to what I would have expected.

Now obviously I’ve got a bias (and I really don’t want to start kicking the show) … but am I reading this right or wrong?

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[–] halcyoncmdr 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I haven't been paying any attention to anyone else, but I've been enjoying this season.

It continues the abandoned Progenitor storyline from TNG. And it does a decent job at explaining why we didn't see any more about it until 800 years later.

Even the interpersonal stuff isn't terrible this season. We get to see more alternative captain/crew interaction and how those directly compare with Disco's crew.

[–] Stamets 2 points 7 months ago

Even the interpersonal stuff isn’t terrible this season.

I'm sorry, but fucking what? Heavy spoilers for Episode 1 below but...

Burnham just put herself above her duty and mission again. She did the exact same fucking thing she did in the first episode of the whole show except instead of physically assaulting her superior officer in a misguided attempt to try and prevent a war she threatened to let extremely dangerous criminals escape with information vital to Federation security unless she was read into a mission.

I'm sorry but the first episode immediately and categorically proved that Burnham is unfit for Starfleet in every capacity. Every single season she has flouted her duty and I've stuck with it because it's been sorta different and she's been growing but now? She is regressing. She went full manipulative psychopath and said "Read me in or I will let you stumble in the dark." Note that this is after she fucked up two different times on this mission already and thereby let the bad guys escape. First at the opening of the episode and then again on the planet. She knows that this mission needed to be done and was a psychotic level of important because of the whole 'Red Directive' shit (that was never fucking explained in the first episode). Kovich outright said to her that he doesn't care who is on the ship or what happens to them because it is that important. She is told she needs to get this done because it's above everything else. What does she do? Repeatedly put the needs of the few above the needs of the many.

She should have been court martialed on the fucking spot.

Note also that I'm not some Disco hater. I'm a mod and the one with an account named after a DSC character and who has been defending DSC on here for months.

I haven't seen past the first episode. If you can promise me it gets better than that, sure, but Burnham is fucking dead in my books. Every major decision that she's "done" in the show was never done by her to begin with, it had to be done by someone else forcing her to do it. Now she's in charge and making decisions that are going to get someone fucking killed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

abandoned Progenitor?

Are you talking about “The Chase”? What’s abandoned?

Otherwise … cool.

[–] halcyoncmdr 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the storyline from "The Chase". After that episode it was never touched again in any of the series until this season of Disco.

Bombshell revelation that all humanoid life in the galaxy was seeded by a Progenitor race? Never discussed again. Obviously Starfleet wouldn't have abandoned that research thread. This season continues that story, and gives an in universe explanation to why we never saw it mentioned again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Funny, for me I was happy for that to go nowhere after the episode. It’s so big and deep a revelation that it’d just be its own show in the end to pursue it further … which I liked … it felt like something so big that even in the Star Trek era it was going to take time and effort to just digest it … which was cool.

Plus in a way the point of the episode wasn’t the sci-fi but the ending dialogue between Picard and the romulan colander about the struggle to find common ground and peace.