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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan 122 points 8 months ago (82 children)

Tesla fans have taken issue with the word “recall” in the past when the company has proven adept at fixing its problems through over-the-air software updates. But they likely will have to admit that, in this case, the terminology applies.

Even if Tesla sucks super hard, I agree with these complaints. I immediately checked to see if this was a "real" recall or a software one. Since they all need some physical work on them it definitely applies, but I really wish they used a different term for software update "recalls". It's confusing word choice.

[–] deranger 184 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (49 children)

Software updates should absolutely be recalls. Ship a complete vehicle or don’t. I absolutely do not want cars to turn in what games are today. I do not want hotfixes on my car because they didn’t test. Fuck an OTA update too, I don’t want that either, if they need an update it’s a recall and the cars have to go back to the shop. I want it to hurt and appropriately damage the company’s reputation.

[–] jkjustjoshing 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone who might be plowed into by one of these things, I care about the difference. Is it something where 80% of them will be automatically fixed within 72 hours by an auto-update, or is it something I’ll need to worry about for weeks/months. There’s no way to know which recalls have been fixed when encountering a vehicle in the wild, so if it’s a software-only recall fix that applies automatically, I feel less concerned about it once the fix is available.

None of this should be taken as support of recklessly shipping unfinished software into a car.

[–] abhibeckert 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

or is it something I’ll need to worry about for weeks/months

Try years. For example the 2020 Takata airbag recall... wouldn't be surprised if there's still a hundred million cars around the world that haven't been recalled. If you don't live in a first world country, it wasn't even possible to get parts for the fix until recently.

Even if the fix was smaller, there aren't enough mechanics in the world to check/update/test a significant percentage of cars quickly, and manufacturers share components so that can easily happen.

And the biggest time sink for a recall is often not the repair, it's all the time spent with humans scheduling/testing/documenting the recall. Only way to speed that up is with automation/OTA updates.

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