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[–] Copernican 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Taiwan can't get recognized despite its government being a founding member of the UN and folks surprised it's contentious for Palestine to be recognized?

[–] DandomRude 11 points 8 months ago

This outcome was by no means surprising, especially as it was not Palestine's first application for membership and the US has even vetoed resolutions calling for an immediate ceasefire in the conflict between Israel and Palestine on several occasions. The difference to your comparison, however, is that Israel itself, unlike China, has no right of veto in the UN Security Council.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a bit misleading, though, Taiwan doesn't want to be recognised as a nation, it wants to be recognised as the one legitimate government of China.

Palestine just wants a seat at the table.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem with that is that Bejing makes it very clear that declaring independence would lead to an invasion of Taiwan. So for a long time most Taiwanese rather did want to keep the current basically independent status quo. However support for unification was low since Taiwan became a democracy. Since the Hong Kong protests and the extraction bill polls for independence show a majority supporting it though.

Also Palestine has a seat on the table, just no vote, as a observer of the UN without being a member.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I didn't want to jump too deep into the specifics of the Taiwanese stance since it's quite complex, just wanted to note the difference between the two.

seat at the table

Yeah probably not the best way of phasing this, my bad!